Nebraska sux
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KF has a 42 million buyout after this year. You think Iowa is going to write that check. Guessing he gives baby ferentz a 2-3 OC contract soon so lock his gravy train in.
My gosh...as much as it pains people on this site......we need Nebraska, Wisky, Ohio St. penn St, Mich to be decent. Those schools don't really effect us and keep coaches in tacked.
Drives me crazy to see ND lose this weekend. because I know the end game.
Drives me crazy to see ND lose this weekend. because I know the end game.
I agree with this 100% which is why I wanted Scott Frost to exceed expectations at Nebraska.
$42 million if canned, which will never happen. A negotiated retirement payment might be possible. But hey, I hope KF and BF stay for at least five more years. Run that ****** right into the ground.
Absolutely not. The worse Wisconsin Nebraska and Iowa are, the better off we are. Probably Minnesota and missouri as well. Campbell isn’t going to any of those schools, and the worse they are, the better chance we have at being the predominant power school in the region.
I just have no idea where “Michigan is on CMC’s short list” comes from. Absolutely no clue.
What is the end game? Fire Freeman 4 games in to his first year? Lol.
ISU has made some decent progress lately up here in Minny. In several sports.
Exceeding expectations at Nebraska is winning national titles.
It's always the strawman case at Nebraska. They think they are reasonable because they say they don't expect to be a dynasty, just compete occasionally for the playoff and national titles. Not that those things can't happen, but all the programmatic things that assisted them in being a dynasty 25 years ago are gone. Those advantages don't exist anymore.
It's sort of like Iowa fans when they get disgruntled with Kirk. They think they are a top 15 "program" because that's what their wins are or whatever, and translate that as this is one of the 15 best jobs in the country. No it isn't. Not even close. The nature of college football has been for a LONG time that it's like 90% if you have a good coach that is stable. The other 10% - recruiting base, facilities, tradition, etc. don't favor Iowa all that much. Basically they are a good program now because they have a flukish 4 decade run with two really good coaches willing to stick around. There is little to nothing "programmatic" that is special at Iowa or Nebraska for that matter.
Iowa may learn what Nebraska is finding out. Nebraska didn't make Pelini win, he made Nebraska win. Fry and Ferentz didn't have success 'cuz Hoks. Iowa had success because of Fry and Ferentz.
Basically these Big 10 programs have big checkbooks to hire and be impatient with coaches. That's great, but now that makes them one of 32 teams or so that can do that. You still have to pick the right guy that works with your program, is in the right station of their career, etc.
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Equal money, resources, and tradition as the Buckeyes and Irish.
Same conference and division as Ohio State (ND's independence is obviously a unique issue).
Same region of the country. Heck, Ann Arbor is the closest of the three to Toledo.
All three clustered around the Great Lakes.
It was good enough for Ohio boy Bo to head north.
I don't see the three as significantly different in attractiveness for a coach like Campbell.
I’m not sure about the others, but we should all hope freeman gets his **** figured out.
If Freeman flops they won't go after Campbell. Still too much unproven in a non blue blood program. They'll go after a much much bigger name, proven, to sooth the alumni. In my opinion anyway.
Notre Dame actually seems like one of the blue bloods that give their coaches a longer leash. Now that will change if Freeman sucks for 3 years, but I think their AD will give him plenty of time to turn it around and as long as he starts improving I don’t see him getting the boot. While their fans might not, their department seems to know the reality of college football. You have down years. Brian Kelly was kept after only getting 4 wins after a 10 win season. At many blue bloods that would get you fired.
Yep. Freeman will get at least three years unless it is a complete **** show. I am fine revisiting the "Matt Campbell is rumored to be involved at [blank]" in three years.
All good points except the first one. Exceeding expectations at Nebraska would be winning the Super Bowl.
I spent a little time lurking on their message boards just to see what they're discussing and it breaks down into three groups:
- 1/3 thinks they should throw $15m at Meyer, Petersen, Stoops (the Bob one), or Saban and make them say no. Constantly talk about the resources Nebraska has, completely oblivious to the fact that 5-6 other schools in their own conference have similar or better resources and funding available to them. This is the "we've been losing for 20 years so we need to win now" crowd.
- 1/3 says 8-9 wins should be the standard, which is reasonable. Then they add in the new hire needs to be a name that will attract recruits nationwide. And has to be a proven winner in the B10 (or P5 at a minimum). While we're at it, they must have Nebraska ties because there's only one way to win at Nebraska and a coach couldn't possibly figure it out unless they played for or coached under Osborne.
- The final 1/3 seems to have a good grasp that they're probably going to get a G5 HC, coordinator or retread because everyone that fits the requirements the other 2/3 of the fanbase want is going to take a hard pass regardless of the money.
I have never understood this view. Competing for conference titles at Iowa State is a better accomplishment than about anything you could do at a blue blood.
And if ND or any program thinks they need to see a guy coach at a blue blood there are three options:
- He doesn't succeed and you don't want him
- He succeeds, and why would he leave except for the NFL?
- He succeeds and he happens to be an alumnus or that's his dream job
The only other possible option might be a guy like Kelly where the honeymoon was long over and it was just time to move on.
People thinking ND or Ohio State wouldn't want Campbell because he hasn't coached at a blue blood or high profile program is crazy. So they want to see him go do what, compete for conference titles? So basically do what he's done at ISU but in a much easier job?
I would say the disagreement I have with the final 1/3 is that there is a good P5 head coach that they could land, and that's Leipold. I think they should putting the full court press on him. I really liked his name getting floated back when Campbell was hired. Not that I thought ISU should've hired him, but I definitely thought he should be at an FBS job if he wanted it. Dude can coach, but KU is a brutal job. If they give him as long as they gave Frost, they will win. Maybe not enough to satisfy a majority of their fans, but they will get back to bowls.
