Ok, sure, if that's the only option. But there are lots of other options that would kill the PAC that don't include taking OSU and Wazzu so the Big-12 should pursue those first.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Ok, sure, if that's the only option. But there are lots of other options that would kill the PAC that don't include taking OSU and Wazzu so the Big-12 should pursue those first.
Rid the PAC of those 2 schools and they have fewer numbers but it will probably make their per school $ larger and make the per school $ for the Big12 smaller. At which point some schools from the Big12 might start to get a wandering eye, some in the conference might already view the addition of some of the new 4 or KU/KSU as a watered down conference. They could be rid of all of that and join a Pac that has just shed its dead weight.
I think someone said earlier that "This isn't that hard", there's more to it than freeing the pac of its two weakest members.
Killing the PAC shouldn't be the end goal. Strengthening the Big XII should.
Agree, I'm getting to the point that my preference to add potential schools is just straight up, whichever combination nets the most money.
Although it would be nice if in doing so it made the Pac almost irrelevant (fold), less inventory, it would make the Big12 contract come negotiation time that much more valuable. Either way we will be the last ones available this time around.
Wrong. We have the chance to end a conference that’s been around in one form or another for about 100 years. To say the B12 was the one to finish it is what makes realignment fun. Survive and advance!
Wow, that's the dumbest comment I've seen in a long-time. You truly are clueless.
Why would Oregon/Wash be a mis-take, in your opinion? Because they might leave for B1G, they might not either? The geography sucks? Cultural fit?
I'm genuine in my curiosity, not trying to start a fight.
Like I stated earlier, I'm starting to lean into the opinion that I want whatever combination of schools from the PAC, that makes the most dollars for the conference.
People on here are naive and unrealistic in coming to grips with how vulnerable the Big XII still is. We’re one move from being in realistic long-term trouble.
The #1 priority should be long-term stability, no matter HOW it comes.
The #1 priority should be long-term stability, no matter HOW it comes.
No, killing the PAC is just the probable result. Taking bottom feeders doesn't makes us stronger.
How? We make way more money than the P12, its not close Get real
My problem is attitude as well as geography. They are isolated. We do not need Conference members who will undermine the Conference schools and betray them, like OuT and USC-UCLA. I am willing to leave those two out and play themselves down to Mountain West. Phil Knight is 84. That gravy train will end.
Yep. Thats exactly why I dont think the PAC(or anyone) is dying as far as FBS football goes. The American makes about 6 million right now from their ESPN deal. The Pac left overs could hit around that.
The only way the Pac dies is if the mountain schools bail, Oregon and washington leave, Notre Dame takes Stanford with them, and Cal drops football. Otherwise they'll be able to get someone in. SMU badly wants out of the American, SDSU has decent value, Boise State could easily say **** it, and then you only need 1 more to get back to 8(thinking Cal and Stanford stay). It'll be a shell of its former self but 4 million isn't that high of a bar to clear.
Ummm. "...no matter HOW it comes...". I believe the ACC said the same thing and locked them into a really bad long-term contract. Other than that I agree. Lock in to a growth relative to other conferences growth / viewing metric.
And we were going to do that even post OUT and pre USC and UCLA leaving for the Big 10. Wildly running around and making moves for no reason is the only idea dumber than chosing to do nothing.
How is that fun at all? Having less conferences doesnt do anything to help the sport
The hard part is because nobody knows what the future playoff looks like (remember this 4-team one expires in 2025 & there is nothing after that), these conferences and teams are trying to figure out their long-term place in the world without knowing the end-game.
Imagine if I said, recruit your best basketball roster but I’m not going to tell you the rules (3 on 3, 4 on 4, 3-point line, rim height) until 2 years from now.
Imagine if I said, recruit your best basketball roster but I’m not going to tell you the rules (3 on 3, 4 on 4, 3-point line, rim height) until 2 years from now.
