SI puts a "value" on the P5 schools
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We're not much above them in that category, according to this chart...
To be fair I don't see how academics matters at all in today's college football world. Would actually like to see the list with that metric dropped.
The academics part is always weird to me. Is it just based on grades? Research money? Professors?
But we are above them, so they're stupid
I would guess a lot of people would disagree with ISU football rank at 15 vs Nebby at 45 and BYU at 50.
I think the other sports ranks are goofy too.
I think the other sports ranks are goofy too.
But you could say the same thing about most of the columns here aside from viewership and football success
Football ranking: This is a five-year average of the Sagarin ratings from 2017 to ’21, using only the current and future Power 5 schools
Disagree with what they used if you want, but it's not like they're just eyeballing it
Interesting. I think there will be some re-shuffling over the next 10-15 years as some SEC and Big Ten programs become perennial losers or mediocre (Look how far Miami has already fallen) since someone has to loose those games. There is opportunity for a couple PAC12 and Big 12 programs to move up if they can win games and become a "powerhouse" in those conferences.
Honestly shocked Iowa State is ranked that high. For the lack of resources we have, our AD is killing it.
Gotta imagine our viewership has taken a hit based on the timeslots and channels we're on vs some of the teams above us. Hopefully, without OuT, we can get a bit higher in the pecking order for the conference.
Yeh, for anyone over 50 it's a surprise, but this is the new ISU.
I'll take that over the opposite though.
I'll take a loss every year against Iowa if it means we're contending for big 12 championships.
For anyone wondering about their methodology for setting up the rankings in each category:
Also, I'm curious why they took the 5 year average of category except the Director's Cup standings. Not sure how much that would change, it just seems odd to have that inconsistency.
- Football Ranking: 2017-2021 average Sagarin ranking
- Academic Ranking: US News & World Report's 2021 university ranking
- All Sports Ranking: 2021-22 Directors cup standings
- Attendance: reported home game attendance 2017-21 (omit 2020)
- Viewership:
total viewershipcount of games with 1M+ viewers from 2017-21 (omit 2020)
Also, I'm curious why they took the 5 year average of category except the Director's Cup standings. Not sure how much that would change, it just seems odd to have that inconsistency.
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The exercise is an interesting way to try an put value to the school's ADs.
"The average school ranking for each Power 5 conference, using future membership: SEC 25.1, Big Ten 25.8, ACC 39.6, Pac-12 41.4, Big 12 49.3." The Big12 in last but it'd be interesting to see that after a few years of the new 4 getting more intriguing matchups and better TV accessibility. As UCF, Cincy and Houston were all near the bottom.
"The average school ranking for each Power 5 conference, using future membership: SEC 25.1, Big Ten 25.8, ACC 39.6, Pac-12 41.4, Big 12 49.3." The Big12 in last but it'd be interesting to see that after a few years of the new 4 getting more intriguing matchups and better TV accessibility. As UCF, Cincy and Houston were all near the bottom.
There was no Directors Cup in 19-20, so it was probably easier to take 1 year instead of taking a 5-year stretch with a hole in the middle.
| Ranking w/o Academics | Overall ranking | School | Football rank | All sports | Attendance | Viewership | Total |
1 | 1 | Ohio State | 2 | 4 | 3 | 2(t) | 11 |
2 | 2 | Michigan | 16 | 3 | 1 | 5(t) | 25 |
3 | 4 | Texas | 12(t) | 1 | 7 | 7(t) | 27 |
4 | 8 | Oklahoma | 5 | 10 | 13 | 1 | 29 |
5 | 10 | Alabama | 1 | 21 | 4 | 4 | 30 |
6 | 3 | Notre Dame | 6 | 8 | 16 | 2(t) | 32 |
7 | 5 | Georgia | 3 | 18 | 8 | 5(t) | 34 |
8 | 6. | Florida | 18 | 5 | 12 | 12(t) | 47 |
9 | 14 | LSU | 14 | 16 | 6 | 11 | 47 |
10 | 7 | Wisconsin | 8 | 23 | 15 | 12(t) | 58 |
11 | 12 | Texas A&M | 12(t) | 24 | 5 | 18(t) | 59 |
12 | 11 | Penn State | 7 | 41 | 2 | 10 | 60 |
13 | 13 | Auburn | 11 | 31 | 11 | 12(t) | 65 |
14 | 9 | USC | 30 | 12 | 23(t) | 9 | 74 |
15 | 16 | Clemson | 4 | 58 | 14 | 7(t) | 83 |
16 | 25 | (tie) Oklahoma St. | 10 | 22 | 30 | 24(t) | 86 |
17 | 15 | Washington | 25 | 27 | 19 | 16(t) | 87 |
18 | 20 | Michigan State | 27 | 39 | 18 | 15 | 99 |
19 | 21 | Iowa | 9 | 52 | 20 | 21(t) | 102 |
20 | 22 | (tie) Oregon | 20 | 30 | 36 | 18(t) | 104 |
21 | 24 | Tennessee | 54 | 13 | 9 | 28(t) | 104 |
22 | 28 | Mississippi | 35 | 19 | 31 | 23 | 108 |
23 | 19 | Florida State | 56 | 14 | 21(t) | 21(t) | 112 |
24 | 27 | Iowa State | 15 | 40 | 23(t) | 35 | 113 |
25 | 34 | Arkansas | 60 | 7 | 25 | 24(t) | 116 |
26 | 33 | Nebraska | 46(t) | 47 | 10 | 16(t) | 119 |
27 | 17 | Stanford | 42(t) | 2 | 54 | 24(t) | 122 |
28 | 30 | (tie) Arizona St. | 23(t) | 25 | 38 | 36(t) | 122 |
29 | 18 | UCLA | 43 | 15 | 40(t) | 28(t) | 126 |
30 | 40 | Kentucky | 26 | 9 | 32 | 61(t) | 128 |
31 | 25 | (tie) Miami | 23(t) | 48 | 34 | 24(t) | 129 |
32 | 44 | Mississippi St. | 21 | 63 | 28 | 20 | 132 |
33 | 30 | (tie) NC State | 37 | 17 | 26(t) | 53(t) | 133 |
34 | 22 | (tie) N. Carolina | 48(t) | 6 | 39 | 41(t) | 134 |
35 | 35 | (tie) Utah | 17 | 42 | 42 | 34 | 135 |
36 | 38 | TCU | 22 | 38 | 49 | 31 | 140 |
37 | 43 | S. Carolina | 52 | 36 | 17 | 36(t) | 141 |
38 | 49 | West Virginia | 29 | 56 | 29 | 28(t) | 142 |
39 | 35 | (tie) Virginia Tech | 41 | 32 | 21(t) | 49(t) | 143 |
40 | 41 | BYU | 50 | 28 | 26(t) | 41(t) | 145 |
41 | 39 | Minnesota | 28 | 27 | 45 | 49(t) | 149 |
42 | 32 | Virginia | 48(t) | 1 | 51 | 52 | 152 |
43 | 51 | Texas Tech | 44(t) | 37 | 33 | 41(t) | 155 |
44 | 29 | Northwestern | 38 | 35 | 58 | 32(t) | 163 |
45 | 42 | Purdue | 36 | 51 | 35 | 45(t) | 167 |
46 | 45 | Baylor | 39(t) | 45 | 47 | 36(t) | 167 |
47 | 55 | (tie) Louisville | 53 | 33 | 44 | 45(t) | 175 |
48 | 35 | (tie) Indiana | 42 | 57 | 48 | 36(t) | 183 |
49 | 47 | Pittsburgh | 33 | 62 | 52 | 36(t) | 183 |
50 | 55 | (tie) UCF | 19 | 67 | 50 | 49(t) | 185 |
51 | 53 | Missouri | 44(t) | 53 | 37 | 53(t) | 187 |
52 | 58 | Kansas State | 31 | 64 | 40(t) | 53(t) | 188 |
53 | 46 | California | 55 | 26 | 55 | 58(t) | 194 |
54 | 48 | Wake Forest | 32 | 43 | 66 | 58(t) | 199 |
55 | 52 | Maryland | 58 | 44 | 57 | 41(t) | 200 |
56 | 64 | Washington St. | 39(t) | 65 | 64 | 32(t) | 200 |
57 | 57 | Colorado | 61 | 54 | 43 | 45(t) | 203 |
58 | 66 | Cincinnati | 34 | 69 | 62 | 45(t) | 210 |
59 | 54 | Georgia Tech | 62 | 60 | 36 | 53(t) | 211 |
60 | 61 | Arizona | 65 | 34 | 53 | 61(t) | 213 |
61 | 50 | Duke | 63 | 20 | 69 | 67(t) | 219 |
62 | 59 | Illinois | 66 | 50 | 59 | 58(t) | 233 |
63 | 60 | Syracuse | 59 | 61 | 60 | 53(t) | 233 |
64 | 67 | Oregon State | 64 | 41 | 63 | 67(t) | 235 |
65 | 65 | Rutgers | 67 | 46 | 56 | 67(t) | 236 |
66 | 62 | Boston College | 51 | 66 | 61 | 66 | 244 |
67 | 69 | Houston | 57 | 68 | 65 | 63(t) | 253 |
68 | 68 | Kansas | 69 | 55 | 68 | 63(t) | 255 |
69 | 63 | Vanderbilt | 68 | 59 | 67 | 63(t) | 257 |
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