Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[Yaz]

 

[WhoISthis]

na dog. 8 SEC teams have more fans in central florida.

But not more Big 12 fans and that’s all that matters

Have you even been to Florida?

 

[JUKEBOX]

one thing I have noticed is how little self-awareness some of these pac 12 programs have

 

[JP4CY]

Stanford's probably been to the most Rose Bowl's in the last decade and no one wants them.

 

[WhoISthis]

We should have TCU talk to them about how making it to a Rose Bowl in a weak conference means little.

Utah starting off in the Mountain West isn’t an issue. We already have the top school in that state

 

[Drew0311]

If they aren't adding to the Big 10 now, why would they in 5 years? Just bring them on. IMO the biggest thing we need to do is bring them in and ensure the PAC dies. That would create some massive instability in the ACC and strengthen us. If all of this moves to the Big 12 being the last remaining league other than the SEC and Big 10 then it's a win. That should be the goal long term.

Because the Big 10 has been very good at not getting excited and adding a bunch of teams right away. They sit back, add a team, then wait two to three years and add another. Phil knight could get pissed in two years and straight up offer the big 10 money to add them. So I could see the Big 10 sitting back and waiting, then poaching Oregon in 3 years.

 

[Clonedogg]

The twitter account followed up that tweet, claiming it was sarcasm. Take that as you will.

 

[CascadeClone]

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In some fairness, the PAC was friday night, and the ACC was same time as B1G.

Going the other way though, the AAC had a worse spot, up against the SEC and outdrew the ACC anyway.

 

[iowastatefan1929]

Utah is eating some humble pie, Pac 12 plastered all over campus, tatoos, many years of gloating to BYU, now they have to join the Big 12 and reality hurts.

 

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[BCClone]

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Should say big ten west.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

Utah is eating some humble pie, Pac 12 plastered all over campus, tatoos, many years of gloating to BYU, now they have to join the Big 12 and reality hurts.

Utah-BYU is not much different than Iowa State-Iowa in some ways. BYU and Iowa have more historical success and massively inflated egos.

Imagine if Ohio State and Michigan had decided to join the SEC ten years ago or something and Iowa was below us. I know ISU fans would talk a lot of smack about those tables turning. Then if our league took a blow and we were forced to seek an invite to their league, we would be pushing back. Same for the Utes.

 

[CascadeClone]

Because the Big 10 has been very good at not getting excited and adding a bunch of teams right away. They sit back, add a team, then wait two to three years and add another. Phil knight could get pissed in two years and straight up offer the big 10 money to add them. So I could see the Big 10 sitting back and waiting, then poaching Oregon in 3 years.

We get focused on their recent FB success and Phil Knight, but Oregon doesn't fit the B1G well. Academically and by endowment, they are closer to AzSt or ISU than anyone in the B1G. They would fit the SEC, but would they want to be that isolated?

I wouldn't be shocked if UO and Oregon St ended up in the Big12 as a pair. Oregon St isn't actually that bad as you look at academic and core sports ranks. Similar to Houston, UCF, WV really. I think there was a viewership chart showing them sucking, but they also got stuck on the P12Network a lot.

I think I would take Oregon St with Oregon, assuming they signed up to a strong GoR.

 

[jbhtexas]

If they aren't adding to the Big 10 now, why would they in 5 years? Just bring them on. IMO the biggest thing we need to do is bring them in and ensure the PAC dies. That would create some massive instability in the ACC and strengthen us. If all of this moves to the Big 12 being the last remaining league other than the SEC and Big 10 then it's a win. That should be the goal long term.

Five years ago did you think USC and UCLA would be in the Big Ten?

The SI report I read yesterday says that Phil Knight, one of the top 30 richest people in the world and Oregon mega-benefactor, wants Oregon in the Big Ten, and if that doesn't work out, the SEC is his next choice. Knight is going to be moving whatever he can move to make that happen, and he will probably eventually be successful.

The wake of those actions might be relatively peaceful, or they might be turbulent and wreak havoc on anything in the way (i.e. the Big 12 if Oregon joins up for a couple of years). Not worth the risk, IMO, for a short-termer. Do you think Phil Knight cares what happens to the Big 12?

The "bring them in" mentality is misguided. Oregon isn't ISU...they don't have to panic every time realignment rolls around. They can wait it out because they have a billionaire benefactor that can string them along and open doors for them. If Oregon would even consider a Big 12 invite, I can't imagine there is any way they would sign a long term GOR.

 

[Stormin]

Five years ago did you think USC and UCLA would be in the Big Ten?

The SI report I read yesterday says that Phil Knight, one of the top 30 richest people in the world and Oregon mega-benefactor, wants Oregon in the Big Ten, and if that doesn't work out, the SEC is his next choice. Knight is going to be moving whatever he can move to make that happen, and he will probably eventually be successful.

The wake of those actions might be relatively peaceful, or they might be turbulent and wreak havoc on anything in the way (i.e. the Big 12 if Oregon joins up for a couple of years). Not worth the risk, IMO, for a short-termer. Do you think Phil Knight cares what happens to the Big 12?

The "bring them in" mentality is misguided. Oregon isn't ISU...they don't have to panic every time realignment rolls around. They can wait it out because they have a billionaire benefactor that can string them along and open doors for them. If Oregon would even consider a Big 12 invite, I can't imagine there is any way they would sign a long term GOR.

Billionaire Benefactor is 84 years old. How much longer can he wait? What are the provisions of his Will?

 

[GoldCy]

We get focused on their recent FB success and Phil Knight, but Oregon doesn't fit the B1G well. Academically and by endowment, they are closer to AzSt or ISU than anyone in the B1G. They would fit the SEC, but would they want to be that isolated?

I wouldn't be shocked if UO and Oregon St ended up in the Big12 as a pair. Oregon St isn't actually that bad as you look at academic and core sports ranks. Similar to Houston, UCF, WV really. I think there was a viewership chart showing them sucking, but they also got stuck on the P12Network a lot.

I think I would take Oregon St with Oregon, assuming they signed up to a strong GoR.

OR St is very similar to ISU in many ways.

 

[WhoISthis]

The twitter account followed up that tweet, claiming it was sarcasm. Take that as you will.

I think they mean satire.

Utah fans need to be knocked down a peg after having success in the Mountain West 0.5.

 

[MeanDean]

OR St is very similar to ISU in many ways.

Oregon State is definitely a step above WSU. But then we have two "OSU"s in the conference. Too confusing. Maybe we could have them designated OSU(e) for Okie Lite and OSU(w) for the Beavs.

 

[Clonedogg]

Oregon is a decent brand, but they do not have a large market in their state with lots of B1G alumnus. I think Wash with Seattle, fits the bill better for the B1G. When UW is good, they draw as good as Oregon.

 

[BryceC]

Five years ago did you think USC and UCLA would be in the Big Ten?

The SI report I read yesterday says that Phil Knight, one of the top 30 richest people in the world and Oregon mega-benefactor, wants Oregon in the Big Ten, and if that doesn't work out, the SEC is his next choice. Knight is going to be moving whatever he can move to make that happen, and he will probably eventually be successful.

The wake of those actions might be relatively peaceful, or they might be turbulent and wreak havoc on anything in the way (i.e. the Big 12 if Oregon joins up for a couple of years). Not worth the risk, IMO, for a short-termer. Do you think Phil Knight cares what happens to the Big 12?

The "bring them in" mentality is misguided. Oregon isn't ISU...they don't have to panic every time realignment rolls around. They can wait it out because they have a billionaire benefactor that can string them along and open doors for them. If Oregon would even consider a Big 12 invite, I can't imagine there is any way they would sign a long term GOR.

USC and UCLA are much different than Oregon. Apples and oranges comparison.

Phil Knight's money only benefits Oregon, not anybody else in the conference.

Quite frankly I'm not worried about it.