Go toe toe? heck when this all went down in 2010 it can be argued the Big 12 was the best football conference at that time, certainly the deepest. The Big 12 got to good, or to big for their britches and the SEC and Big 10 didn't like it. Other leagues had a very hard time recruiting Texas, the Big 12 basically had the state locked up. Even all the northern schools had around 25 Texans on their rosters. I think from 200 4to 2014 or so, whatever version of the Big 12 there was, was a top 2 league in the country.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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B1G been doing that for years. How many times has Iowa played OSU in the last 15 years.
That was when Texas fell. aTm opened the pipeline to Texas for the SEC and Texas never recovered.
Yeah I agree, with that. I think UU is probably the most valuable of those 4, at least when considering future returns.
value to the Big 12 is probably something like this:
1. Oregon
2. Washington
3. Utah
4. tie Arizona State
tie Arizona
6. Colorado
7. Stanford
8. Oregon St
9. Washington St
10. Cal
Yep. As conferences get spread out and become 16+ teams, it's time to move on from thinking teams need to play everyone in their conference regularly. More important to create rivals.
For example in hoops, would rather play KU, KSU, OSU home/road during a season vs. playing Utah, UCF, etc annually.
Same goes for FB, have 5 teams we play each year and then rotate the other 4 games.
My question is at what point do schools outside these 2 conferences start demanding payments to play their teams. Just like we pay FCS and G5 schools to play us. When they are getting double the money we are, when do we start saying if you want to schedule outside your league you pay us?
The fact Cal is in the bay area, they bump above WSU & OSU. WSU & OSU are MWC level from a media rights $.
I would also put CU above Arizona. Even more since Arizona FB is playing at a KU level.
I think this Coach (Jed Fisch) they have now might get thing going in a better direction. They actually had a pretty good recruiting class last year and are off to a pretty good start on the upcoming one.
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Not really. Arizona football is in a slump, but they are not perpetually bad. Plus, Basketball (both men's and women's) is super solid. Bring on U of A!
We were the first conference to play 9 conference games, to create more revenue and if just worked out perfect to be round robin and equal home and away in basketball. I wouldn’t be mad if we were the first to play 10 conference games, depending on the media contract difference of course. If it’s not much I’m fine with 9 still or back to 8. Whatever gets us money and wins.
Both AZ programs need to step their asses up though or they will not win much at all in our league
Who in the Bay area watches CFB, esp Cal... then you have their issues politically with basically 80% of the schools in the Big 12.
CU is pretty weak really, Football and bball has been poor since leaving the Big 12. And their facilities are junk as someone said, basically losing money yearly.
Az football sux, but BBall is excellent
AZ state is mediocre But does bring a wrestling prog, as does Stanford, and OSU.
I can't figure out how Arizona State doesn't have better sports teams. Just walk around that campus and I don't know how many young males can turn that down if you know what I mean.
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The college football world has been thrown into realignment chaos again after it was confirmed that USC and UCLA are heading for the Big Ten's greener (money) pastures in 2024. This comes only one year after Texas and Oklahoma announced their future move from the Big 12…
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I’m sure this has been mentioned but adding the four mountain schools before the B1G does anything else would be a fantastic move.
If the B1G doesn’t take Oregon and/or Washington, they basically have to come here too, and they are both CFP level programs over the last decade and in Oregon’s case, a massive Nike brand backing their success.
If the B1G doesn’t take Oregon and/or Washington, they basically have to come here too, and they are both CFP level programs over the last decade and in Oregon’s case, a massive Nike brand backing their success.
Colorado never really fit in the Big 12 culturally which may or may not be important. They felt more like a Pac 10 school and wanted to move that direction. I don't blame them...wish they hadn't done it but I get it. They were an outlier geographically and were treated as one. The Big 8/12 loved including Denver as being in their market's footprint but what did the Big 12 do to use the Denver area? Did they host any tourneys?
That would be real short sighted to leave them behind because of their football woes the past 5 years.
UCF and BYU are now in the league. Culture matters about zero in the game now. If you have (or the potential to have) good football and can make money, welcome aboard.
