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Tyrese Hunter Entering the Transfer Portal - NIL Speculation

I have questions.
1. Can shoe companies form their own collectives? I would find this especially offensive if they did and then the NCAA dropped pending charges because the previous perpetrators did nothing different than what is now permissible; pay a few bucks to the IRS and the slates would be clean.
2. Can collective agents sign a number of kids, then shop groups to schools? It would turn coaches from recruiters to fundraisers.

I find this first NIL process disheartening for two reasons. First, ISU will not be competitive with the blue bloods because our donor-base is smaller in numbers and have fewer resources. Regional NIL opportunities are smaller because of the smaller population base.

Secondly, if you broke the fan base into those who were fans because they loved the school and underdogs (Hearts) and those who want to be associated with winners or tradition (Braggers), I think you'd find the percentage of Hearts to Braggers is higher at ISU than many other schools. The current NIL process really benefits Braggers. It may make marketing sense but it really damages school loyalty.
 
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AuH2O said:
Nobody is saying it’s a celebrity endorsement or that it matters that people like or trust Nijel Pack. You’re saying it’s a good use of $800k because it’s “getting their name out there”

In order for this to get their name out there, people have to be aware of the story. The number of people hearing about this is small, because Pack going from KSU to Miami is a tiny blip on the sports radar and is zero outside of sports. And that doesn’t even consider how few that are aware of the story are going to get the LifeWallet aspect of the story.

The only way they are getting pub is in the “hey, for some reason this company is spending $10m on getting college boys to play sports in Florida,” sort of way.

I’m a Big 12 basketball fan following NIL closely, and until 5 mins ago and searching it again I thought it was NerdWallet paying Pack.
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That’s funny because people here have me believing Nigel Pack is the greatest player in the history of college basketball.
 
IsUaClone2 said:
I have questions.
1. Can shoe companies form their own collectives? I would find this especially offensive if they did and then the NCAA dropped pending charges because the previous perpetrators did nothing different than what is now permissible; pay a few bucks to the IRS and the slates would be clean.
2. Can collective agents sign a number of kids, then shop groups to schools? It would turn coaches from recruiters to fundraisers.

I find this first NIL process disheartening for two reasons. First, ISU will not be competitive with the blue bloods because our donor-base is smaller in numbers and have fewer resources. Regional NIL opportunities are smaller because of the smaller population base.

Secondly, if you broke the fan base into those who were fans because they loved the school and underdogs (Hearts) and those who want to be associated with winners or tradition (Braggers), I think you'd find the percentage of Hearts to Braggers is higher at ISU than many other schools. The current NIL process really benefits Braggers. It may make marketing sense but it really damages school loyalty.
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Yes shoe companies can endorse players and give them money.
 
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Gunnerclone said:
That’s funny because people here have me believing Nigel Pack is the greatest player in the history of college basketball.
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No it doesn’t matter. Spending millions on getting pretty much anonymous college athletes in a sea of transfers to go play at colleges no one pays attention to is great marketing.

Winning in the dark, marketing style.
 
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daniel22 said:
Look at Zion. He got paid to go to Duke and KU was working with Adidas to get him to be a Jayhawk
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Which begs the question, should ISU be looking for a replacement for Nike? They basically see ISU as a bottom rung of their schools that they outfit. And I also believe it has been shared here on CF that ISU doesn't see a whole lot of money from Nike in the first place, so they sure as hell have NEVER been steering any athlete to go to school in Ames.

Shouldn't ISU leadership talk/look at other companies that could possibly help out out more? (Under Armour for instance?)
 
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WalkingCY said:
Which begs the question, should ISU be looking for a replacement for Nike? They basically see ISU as a bottom rung of their schools that they outfit. And I also believe it has been shared here on CF that ISU doesn't see a whole lot of money from Nike in the first place, so they sure as hell have NEVER been steering any athlete to go to school in Ames.

Shouldn't ISU leadership talk/look at other companies that could possibly help out out more? (Under Armour for instance?)
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Go back to Pony or Reebok!
 
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WalkingCY said:
Which begs the question, should ISU be looking for a replacement for Nike? They basically see ISU as a bottom rung of their schools that they outfit. And I also believe it has been shared here on CF that ISU doesn't see a whole lot of money from Nike in the first place, so they sure as hell have NEVER been steering any athlete to go to school in Ames.

Shouldn't ISU leadership talk/look at other companies that could possibly help out out more? (Under Armour for instance?)
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Go somewhere we'll be top of the food chain, a Fila or New Balance deal maybe? I don't know if they make jerseys.
 
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WalkingCY said:
Which begs the question, should ISU be looking for a replacement for Nike? They basically see ISU as a bottom rung of their schools that they outfit. And I also believe it has been shared here on CF that ISU doesn't see a whole lot of money from Nike in the first place, so they sure as hell have NEVER been steering any athlete to go to school in Ames.

Shouldn't ISU leadership talk/look at other companies that could possibly help out out more? (Under Armour for instance?)
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I'd go for Apex. They gave the world these beauties:

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Photos: Iowa football’s original “winged” uniforms from the 1990s

With Iowa football unveiling alternate uniforms for 2019 featuring the 'wings” design from the 1990s, take a look at a few photos from the original 'wings era.”
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Or maybe Tanel - they made those revolutionary 360 degree pivot cleats back in the early 90s. And I'm shocked to see that they still survive:

Footwear - Tanel360.com

www.tanel360.com www.tanel360.com
 
WalkingCY said:
Which begs the question, should ISU be looking for a replacement for Nike? They basically see ISU as a bottom rung of their schools that they outfit. And I also believe it has been shared here on CF that ISU doesn't see a whole lot of money from Nike in the first place, so they sure as hell have NEVER been steering any athlete to go to school in Ames.

Shouldn't ISU leadership talk/look at other companies that could possibly help out out more? (Under Armour for instance?)
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Hmmm...like the question. Under Armour is pretty popular, too, correct?

What's going to keep 'outsiders' contributing to another school? For example, can Arkansas, LSU, Auburn, etc. donors give to each others NIL fun to help dethrone Alabama. I know, absurd idea.
 
IDk why people think Hunter getting booed is a bad look. It's college sports. Now, if there are older fans making personal comments or attacks, that's one thing but a coordinated effort from the student section is just part of the fun of college sports. Think Marcus Smart flop type of stuff. He totally deserves some flack but it doesn't have to be ruthless.
 
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WalkingCY said:
Which begs the question, should ISU be looking for a replacement for Nike? They basically see ISU as a bottom rung of their schools that they outfit. And I also believe it has been shared here on CF that ISU doesn't see a whole lot of money from Nike in the first place, so they sure as hell have NEVER been steering any athlete to go to school in Ames.

Shouldn't ISU leadership talk/look at other companies that could possibly help out out more? (Under Armour for instance?)
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Kids will flock here if we can lock down that Skechers deal.
 
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IsUaClone2 said:
I find this first NIL process disheartening for two reasons. First, ISU will not be competitive with the blue bloods because our donor-base is smaller in numbers and have fewer resources. Regional NIL opportunities are smaller because of the smaller population base.
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Dude, we are not going to be competitive with our peers like KSU and OSU. We were never competitive with the blue bloods.

I am in wait and see mode, and I hope some rules are enacted. But if there is zero competitive balance in MBB and CFB, then I won't follow either anymore, including Iowa State. I mean, it's unbalanced now, but like 60/40 - upstarts can still rise if they get the right AD and coach and keep them around (e.g. Baylor, KSU under the Wizard). But the gap looks to be increasing by a magnitude or two. It will be a joke, and this may push the NFL-Lite model a lot more than conference re-alignment.
 
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WalkingCY said:
Which begs the question, should ISU be looking for a replacement for Nike? They basically see ISU as a bottom rung of their schools that they outfit. And I also believe it has been shared here on CF that ISU doesn't see a whole lot of money from Nike in the first place, so they sure as hell have NEVER been steering any athlete to go to school in Ames.

Shouldn't ISU leadership talk/look at other companies that could possibly help out out more? (Under Armour for instance?)
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I'll tell you that UNI looked a switching to UA for everything but MBB before the 2019-20 season and UA gave them a bunch of football cleats for spring practice that year and they couldn't get through practice without several blowing out during each practice. They boxed them all up and shipped them back after a week and re-upped with Nike immediately.
 
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