Is Weber out a KSU?

[madguy30]

I don't know about all of social media, but I would certainly hope recruits and players don't look at CF when the team is struggling. This place is a cesspool when their is a loss. I wouldn't be surprised if Twitter and other social media outlets are just as bad. I don't think it's an ISU fan thing either, it's a societal thing.

I've looked at the CF twitter page (good stuff at times) and I can confirm that tweeters are just as bad.

It would be confusing to see the Hilton crowd erupt in cheers when you're on the floor but knowing someone out there is hating you publicly for the same thing.

 

[surly]

Tang looks the part but a huge gamble.

No less of a gamble than your present coach, your past coach, or any of the shiny bright objects out there today, e.g. English, Jans, McCasland, etc. It's a crapshoot in many ways, isn't it?

That's why low-risk Weber was hired to settle the waters after Frank Martin. But I never thought he'd be a home run like, for example, I expected of Prohm or 'the mayor' at N. Frankly, Bruce surprised me and most others with the successes he enjoyed.

 

[Marcelason78]

No less of a gamble than your present coach......

Based on what? Head coaching experience/success?

 

[surly]

Based on what? Head coaching experience/success?

Jerome Tang is Baylor's lead recruiter. He's been in the B12 a long time. He understands the league and what's required to compete. He's a minority. There are lots of obvious traits that are attractive about him.

Otz knows ISU. He was successful with a generational player at Brookings. Not so much at UNLV. His turnaround first year in Ames was special. I'd take my chances with Tang today given a choice between them going forward, every time.

By the way, the odds of K-State hiring Tang are low for multiple reasons.

 

[chuckd4735]

Mizzou opening up when it did sucks for KSU. Mizzou is a much better job.

 

[Marcelason78]

Jerome Tang is Baylor's lead recruiter..... He's a minority.....

By the way, the odds of K-State hiring Tang are low for multiple reasons.

Other than no head coaching experience, what are the 'multiple reasons'?

 

[CyCrazy]

Mizzou opening up when it did sucks for KSU. Mizzou is a much better job.

How? I would say they are pretty similar. Mizzou hasn't done squat in recent years. Norm Stewart aint roaming the sidelines anymore,

 

[chuckd4735]

How? I would say they are pretty similar. Mizzou hasn't done squat in recent years. Norm Stewart aint roaming the sidelines anymore,

More resources, stronger alumni base/donors, much much better location, better facilities, to name a few.

 

[cycloneML]

More resources, stronger alumni base/donors, much much better location, better facilities, to name a few.

All true but a horrific culture and piss poor interest level.

 

[surly]

Missouri

NCAA Tournament Elite Eight 1976, 1980, 1982, 1989, 1994, 2002, 2009

K-State

NCAA Tournament Elite Eight 1948, 1951, 1958, 1959, 1961, 1964, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1981, 1988, 2010, 2018
NCAA Tournament Final Four 1948, 1951, 1958, 1964
NCAA Tournament Runner-up 1951

 

[surly]

Other than no head coaching experience, what are the 'multiple reasons'?

Tang will be in high demand by other programs. He may not want to coach in the B12 against Baylor. K-State may have other coaches in mind. There are a lot of variables.

 

[chuckd4735]

Missouri

NCAA Tournament Elite Eight 1976, 1980, 1982, 1989, 1994, 2002, 2009

K-State

NCAA Tournament Runner-up 1951
NCAA Tournament Final Four 1948, 1951, 1958, 1964
NCAA Tournament Elite Eight 1948, 1951, 1958, 1959, 1961, 1964, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1981, 1988, 2010, 2018

Or in other words, in our lifetimes, they have had equal success.

 

[JP4CY]

Missouri

NCAA Tournament Elite Eight 1976, 1980, 1982, 1989, 1994, 2002, 2009

K-State

NCAA Tournament Runner-up 1951
NCAA Tournament Final Four 1948, 1951, 1958, 1964
NCAA Tournament Elite Eight 1948, 1951, 1958, 1959, 1961, 1964, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1981, 1988, 2010, 2018

I don't think those comparisons in real life matter as much as they do for us fans.
You/KState have more E8's F4's than Texas. Texas is a better job.

I'm sure Mizzou fans think their job is better and I'm sure KState think their job is better.

 

[Marcelason78]

Tang will be in high demand by other programs. He may not want to coach in the B12 against Baylor. K-State may have other coaches in mind. There are a lot of variables.

OK, you've mentioned only one variable so far that K-State can't control-- Tang may not want to coach in the Big12. What else?

 

[surly]

Or in other words, in our lifetimes, they have had equal success.

Past 20-years
Missouri 358-288 55%; 0 conference c'ships; 3 top 25 finishes; 7 NCAA appearances
K-State 381-269 60%; 2 conference c'ships, 4 top 25 finishes; 9 NCAA appearances

 

[surly]

OK, you've mentioned only one variable so far that K-State can't control-- Tang may not want to coach in the Big12. What else?

I said nothing about K-State controlling anything. I said the likelihood of him being K-State's next coach is low because there are so many variables. I hope he's our next coach.

 

[surly]

I don't think those comparisons in real life matter as much as they do for us fans.
You/KState have more E8's F4's than Texas. Texas is a better job.

I'm sure Mizzou fans think their job is better and I'm sure KState think their job is better.

Actually, I believe the two jobs are fairly equal gigs. Maryland and Louisville are better openings than both. UGA worse.

 

[chuckd4735]

Past 20-years
Missouri 358-288 55%; 0 conference c'ships; 3 top 25 finishes; 7 NCAA appearances
K-State 381-269 60%; 2 conference c'ships, 4 top 25 finishes; 9 NCAA appearances

So pretty equal. Who has more fans? Who has more money? Who has better facilities? Who's able to recruit easier?

 

[JP4CY]

Actually, I believe the two jobs are fairly equal gigs. Maryland and Louisville are better openings than both. UGA worse.

But you keep comparing based upon the NCAA Tournament. KState isn't a better job than Texas.
If Uconn opened today, it's not a better job than Maryland.

 

[Marcelason78]

I said nothing about K-State controlling anything. I said the likelihood of him being K-State's next coach is low because there are so many variables. I hope he's our next coach.

So many variables....
Is the main variable that K-State AD just doesn't want to hire your dream guy because he has no head coaching experience?