Screwed in Morgantown

Yeah, the other plays, while bad, were not as clear as this one. His foot didn't get within 10 inches of touching down in the end zone.

The play clock being at 0:00 was very clear.

On that: is that a turn over since it was 4th down or replay of down with 5 yard loss?

Giving up that big of a play on a 4th down was pretty bad regardless.
 
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Blaming refs is losing mentality. How about not fumbling and not leaving it up to the refs? We have snapped the ball after the play clock ended before too where we didn't get a penalty. How about not getting totally burned by the the receiver on that play?

Refs didn't have a good game, but we lost not because of them.
 
We lost and got beat straight up. The refs didn’t have anything to do with Purdy being a complete failure. He didn’t even try to throw to Hutchinson or Kolar. Playcalling combined with a horribly poopy Purdy is why we lost. It’s that simple.
You said poopy purdy.
 
BTW, for those who don’t know, we share refs with the MWC. I’m thinking this was their poor crew. Never seen them before.

Apparently, being relegated to B team television coverage also means that you get B team officials. Who knew?

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Yeah, the other plays, while bad, were not as clear as this one. His foot didn't get within 10 inches of touching down in the end zone.

I was only half able to watch this on my phone while out to eat with my wife. From the angle that I saw, I thought he was down. I think somebody else mentioned another angle. Does anybody have a screenshot of that?
 
I was only half able to watch this on my phone while out to eat with my wife. From the angle that I saw, I thought he was down. I think somebody else mentioned another angle. Does anybody have a screenshot of that?
There is an angle on Twitter that my kid showed me where you can see his foot never got close.
 
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Never a fan of signaling out a player, but Datrone Young...yikes. I stopped to rewind and watch each time he got beat (which was a lot) and off the snap he has no idea what to do. So flat-footed, does not read the WR well at all, and just kind gives so much cushion because I think he knows he is not good at reading and breaking on the ball. It was painful to watch.
100% agree. For those of you keeping score, he’s also the guy who had the ball bounce off of him on the final kickoff late in the 4th qtr against the ToE in 2019, resulting in the ToE recovering the fumble and our offense not getting on the field for a possible final drive.

 
Always have been screwed. ISU will never get these calls. It has historically proven this. Which is one reason I want out of the Big 12
 
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The bellyaching about refs on these threads are embarrassing. I know these losses sting- but if we play like we’re supposed to, the refs aren’t a factor.
If you have followed Cyclone football for the last 20 years- you know one thing: never, ever leave the game up to the officials. We’ll lose every time.
The officiating was horrible, but good teams find ways to overcome it. We need to be better- simple as that.
 
The bellyaching about refs on these threads are embarrassing. I know these losses sting- but if we play like we’re supposed to, the refs aren’t a factor.
If you have followed Cyclone football for the last 20 years- you know one thing: never, ever leave the game up to the officials. We’ll lose every time.
The officiating was horrible, but good teams find ways to overcome it. We need to be better- simple as that.

Good teams do not overcome giving up TDs that are not touchdowns, nor do good teams overcome scoring TDs that are ruled fumbles. Good teams also still struggle when they pick up first downs that are marked yards short
 
The bellyaching about refs on these threads are embarrassing. I know these losses sting- but if we play like we’re supposed to, the refs aren’t a factor.
If you have followed Cyclone football for the last 20 years- you know one thing: never, ever leave the game up to the officials. We’ll lose every time.
The officiating was horrible, but good teams find ways to overcome it. We need to be better- simple as that.
yeah it doesn't really matter what conference we're in (assuming they all have similar policies around officating)

we are not going to get the benefit of the doubt in most scenarios, so our team needs to be good enough to overcome the margins of bad officiating

it's a little harder to completely fix games if our ol, dl, and skill positions are dominating (unless they throw out key players for bs targeting calls or something) -- if we have good depth, even that wouldn't matter too much
 
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I was at a wedding and missed most of the second half. Hall’s fumble that bad?

Ultimately the story is that the defense finally had a bad game. Don’t know if it was the matchup or a letdown, but they need to pull it together.

**** Texas
 
Good teams do not overcome giving up TDs that are not touchdowns, nor do good teams overcome scoring TDs that are ruled fumbles. Good teams also still struggle when they pick up first downs that are marked yards short

The officiating sucked.

Our defense might have been worse. I'm not willing to give them a pass just because the officiating was bad. We made Doege look like an NFL guy yesterday and that dude SUCKS.
 
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Name another team in this league that constantly gets screwed over by the refs, and we will then stop complaining about it. The sorry thing is the exact same thing happens in BB also.

As a former HS coach, I get reffing is difficult job, but there were a couple of calls today, that just leave you shaking your head. The clock hitting zero on the one touchdown, a ref is assigned to make sure the ball is snapped before that happens.
We got screwed over twice yesterday on poor calls that the replay did not show enough to overturn in our favor.

None of this makes up for the poor play of the defense for the majority of the game, lack of tackling, little to no pressure on the QB, and the 10 yard cushions that we were providing on every play.
The last two weeks we have had DB's double cover a WR in the endzone and either just not see the ball or miss jump and in both cases gave up a touchdown. Play the ball and either knock it down or catch it.
 
I was at a wedding and missed most of the second half. Hall’s fumble that bad?

Ultimately the story is that the defense finally had a bad game. Don’t know if it was the matchup or a letdown, but they need to pull it together.

**** Texas


here's the video with one angle of the breece hall fumble -- the officials signaled it as a touchdown on the field but then changed the ruling on the field to fumble before the review

then after the review said the ruling on the field stands (despite it looking like potentially the knee + elbow went down and maybe the ball passed the goal line)

this was after a string of questionable/toss-up/missed calls that all went against iowa state (that resulted in touchdowns for wvu)
 
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The bellyaching about refs on these threads are embarrassing. I know these losses sting- but if we play like we’re supposed to, the refs aren’t a factor.
If you have followed Cyclone football for the last 20 years- you know one thing: never, ever leave the game up to the officials. We’ll lose every time.
The officiating was horrible, but good teams find ways to overcome it. We need to be better- simple as that.

ISU overcame it last week when a TD was taken off the board for no reason.

They shouldn’t have to overcome it every single week.

Hall did not fumble on the goal line. There is indisputable evidence that he is down while he still had the ball.

There is no excuse for a replay review to be that wrong.
 

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