John Deere strike imminent?

keepngoal

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"Nope" and then a sneer is hardly a refutation.

I've seen it first-hand. It's not a difficult chain to follow.
Couldn’t care less.

Of course you have. And that chain is yanking you, Sir.
 
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cyfan21

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Not sure I trust that Jonah Furman guy. I don't know him, he may be right. But he pretty clearly has a 1 sided view.

For example, I'd like to see further down on that page he screen-shotted. I bet the company paid benefits (health, dental, life, disability) is easily another $10-15,000 of total compensation.
I thought the exact same thing.
 
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mramseyISU

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Not sure I trust that Jonah Furman guy. I don't know him, he may be right. But he pretty clearly has a 1 sided view.

For example, I'd like to see further down on that page he screen-shotted. I bet the company paid benefits (health, dental, life, disability) is easily another $10-15,000 of total compensation.
I started reading that feed a couple days before the strike because there was a lot more info than was coming out from the local media. It became clear pretty quick to me he’s more of a propaganda spreader than a reporter. Still some interesting tidbits in there but you have to weed through a lot of garbage to get to it.
 
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So what are the dues then? How many millions have these workers paid to the UAW to negotiate these wages that are so low? Enlighten us.
My problem the same people stating how the workers are being exploited want to paint the UAW as some great organization standing up for the little guy. Looks to me like they are a lot better at cashing checks than negotiating. Let’s see what happens, but these are skilled workers in the biggest labor shortage in decades. They ought to be able to cash in.
Looks like ripvdub in a subsequent post nails it pretty well on dues calculation. I don’t think any of my posts have tried to paint a picture of the UAW as some heroic organization selflessly representing the poor downtrodden worker. I simply have A lot of experience in manufacturing as well as Union representation area and because of that I recognize and respond to some of posts I read here. I would be the first to tell you the International Union people are probably little different from their adversaries in the corporate world. I simply feel compelled to reply when I read something strictly pointed to being critical of unions when it is obvious to me someone is just ranting with little real knowledge of labor negotiations.
 

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Looks like ripvdub in a subsequent post nails it pretty well on dues calculation. I don’t think any of my posts have tried to paint a picture of the UAW as some heroic organization selflessly representing the poor downtrodden worker. I simply have A lot of experience in manufacturing as well as Union representation area and because of that I recognize and respond to some of posts I read here. I would be the first to tell you the International Union people are probably little different from their adversaries in the corporate world. I simply feel compelled to reply when I read something strictly pointed to being critical of unions when it is obvious to me someone is just ranting with little real knowledge of labor negotiations.
First, his numbers are almost the exact same as mine. Around 700/year per striking worker or $7M pooled per year to get this representation. Sorry, it seems like the same people claiming exploitation think the UAW is great, and the people claiming the workers are making plenty are trashing the UAW. It doesn’t make sense.
 

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I’m not going to give my opinion of the guy in case someone in HR is reading this but he sold those stocks in March. He’s taking a lot of heat for good reason but this is a nothing burger in my opinion.
 

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I’m not going to give my opinion of the guy in case someone in HR is reading this but he sold those stocks in March. He’s taking a lot of heat for good reason but this is a nothing burger in my opinion.
High net worth people dump that much just to rebalance their portfolios every once in a while. Assuming he has a ton of.j.d. stock
 

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I’m not going to give my opinion of the guy in case someone in HR is reading this but he sold those stocks in March. He’s taking a lot of heat for good reason but this is a nothing burger in my opinion.
My guess $70k is easily less than 1% of JD stock he holds.

Not a big deal, especially since possibility of a strike was public info based on 90% of union rejecting contract on Sunday.
 
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Not exactly sure.
I always forget how far behind Des Moines Works is compared to Waterloo and Harvester. Then again a common thing I hear around PEC and TCAO is nobody gives a **** about sprayers. Guess that’s not just on the engineering side of things.
John Deere bought Hagie, probably the best sprayer available, they don’t need to worry about the green ones as much.
 
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jmax71

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John Deere bought Hagie, probably the best sprayer available, they don’t need to worry about the green ones as much.
I would bet they sell more Green Deere Sprayer by 2-1 over Hagie sprayer sales. Hagie has a pretty limited capacity and market.