Breaking down the UNI Panthers

[mattyheiden]

Panthers will have a better OL this year and playing this spring probably will help them mature a bit. Size won’t be an issue but moving the ball consistently has been.

 

[cyclonedave25]

Just saw the line for the game:

ISU -34.5 O/U 42.5

Was one of the last games to hit the books for Week 1.

Thoughts?

Id put a decent amount on UNI to cover that. It’s either a fun blowout or you win money.

 

[Cyclad]

45+
to less than 16.

Blow out.

Clones in double OT

 

[BCClone]

The only way it gets there is if the UNI offense turns it over a bunch. That offense is inept but they don't hand it over. Plus, the UNI defense will be competitive for the first half.

I think Farley will be snapping the ball with a second or two on the clock to slow the game down. UNI doesn’t want to get into a shootout rhythm with ISU. That would turn ugly.

 

[cyc26]

Except Campbell doesn't run up the score. And being week 1, he will take a comfortable lead and put the backups in to keep everyone healthy.

I'm aware he doesn't run up scores, the depth for the cyclones on both sides of the ball this year is next to none. I assume the likes of Dekkers, J. Brock, Jaylin Noel and Daniel Jackson will dominate UNI. Even if they come in with a 28 pt lead. Campbell may run the ball in the 2nd half but still, UNI will struggle. They are not the UNI teams we are used to seeing.

 

[cyc26]

That line is too big. Even if we dominate, I would expect a very vanilla 2nd half from a play-calling standpoint. Kind of like the Tech game last year.

I think the line is very accurate. This is UNI, not tech. UNI is down this year and Iowa State, a legit top 7 team in the country. Depth and power up front will dominate this game.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

I'm aware he doesn't run up scores, the depth for the cyclones on both sides of the ball this year is next to none. I assume the likes of Dekkers, J. Brock, Jaylin Noel and Daniel Jackson will dominate UNI. Even if they come in with a 28 pt lead. Campbell may run the ball in the 2nd half but still, UNI will struggle. They are not the UNI teams we are used to seeing.

It's probably a better UNI defense than we've seen in 6 or 7 years. They're going to hold up just fine for 3 quarters as long as they're not on the field the entire first half.

I'll be shocked if Iowa State has a 28 point lead at halftime unless turnovers lead to points or repeated short fields and I think Iowa State is really going to be good offensively.

 

[cyc26]

It's probably a better UNI defense than we've seen in 6 or 7 years. They're going to hold up just fine for 3 quarters as long as they're not on the field the entire first half.

I'll be shocked if Iowa State has a 28 point lead at halftime unless turnovers lead to points or repeated short fields and I think Iowa State is really going to be good offensively.

It's also a better Iowa State offense we've seen. OL and RB, and pass catchers are all top 10 units in the nation according to Athlon. UNI will struggle to stop that. 49-10 final is very possible.

 

[BryceC]

It's also a better Iowa State offense we've seen. OL and RB, and pass catchers are all top 10 units in the nation according to Athlon. UNI will struggle to stop that. 49-10 final is very possible.

The point is even at 49-10, that’s barely a cover.

 

[cyc26]

The point is even at 49-10, that’s barely a cover.

Still a cover and, according to the books, very likely. I assume line will move closer to -31 by kick.

 

[RezClone]

So are UNI fans upset or happy about this?

Like a Chicago Cubs fan w/ season tickets to the I-Cubs when a player gets called up...

 

[ISUTex]

Just saw the line for the game:

ISU -34.5 O/U 42.5

Was one of the last games to hit the books for Week 1.

Thoughts?

Whenever UNI beats ISU, they are usually really good (for their level) and ISU is pretty bad. When it's a close ISU win, UNI is usually still pretty good and ISU may or may not be good. Think 6-7 wins.

This year, ISU is top ten caliber and UNI isn't great (on their level). Expect an ass kicking. Maybe not by 35, but an ass kicking. ISU 37. UNI 13.

 

[Bipolarcy]

UNI won’t be able to run the ball and we’re going to run it down their throat with Breece, Jirehl and our big uglies. The TOP will look like the Oregon game. It might be 17-7 or something at half, but this game should and will be over by midway through the 3rd quarter before we put our 2nd and 3rd string guys in and open things up. I see it being 38-14 or 45-17 in a clean game. If UNI makes some mistakes and we score on either ST or our defense makes a play and scores, it’ll be a wider margin.

UNI is not good and we’re a top-10 team. The size & speed gap between these two programs has tripled in the past two years and our experience will allow us to just go out there and play. Our guys shouldn’t be thinking about where they should or shouldn’t be. Should be second nature at this point.

I hope you were typing with one hand and knocking on wood with the other. There is just too much tempting fate in this post for my liking.

 

[BryceC]

I'm aware he doesn't run up scores, the depth for the cyclones on both sides of the ball this year is next to none. I assume the likes of Dekkers, J. Brock, Jaylin Noel and Daniel Jackson will dominate UNI. Even if they come in with a 28 pt lead. Campbell may run the ball in the 2nd half but still, UNI will struggle. They are not the UNI teams we are used to seeing.

It's not even just that. If ISU gets up something like 10-0, he'll be content to run the ball every time and run 38 seconds of clock between each play. The game could be a total drubbing and end up 27-7.

 

[BryceC]

Iowa State has a better BACK than Iowa has had in a while. Iowa is still usually a clinic up front.

I think this is overblown. Goodson is a very good running back. They averaged 4.6 YPC last year (48th in the country). Prior to that it was 3.9 (86th) 3.8 (88th) 3.8 (100th) 4.5 (52nd) 4.5 (59th). They are just okay on the ground or flat bad on the ground for half a decade now.

 

[cyc26]

It's not even just that. If ISU gets up something like 10-0, he'll be content to run the ball every time and run 38 seconds of clock between each play. The game could be a total drubbing and end up 27-7.

Still, the talent, schemes and just overall ability of the Cylones 1st and 2nd stringers will overpower that of the panthers. Even if they run the ball 70% of the game it will still be a beatdown.

 

[cytor]

I agree with the title of this thread.... we must break down the Panthers.

 

[keepngoal]

Hall at 200 yds gets pulled. Is there by half or first five of the third.

 

[dualthreat]

Regarding the run game
I’d love to hop on Cyclone Fanatic on Sunday morning saying Man I guess I was wrong! After we pummel them for 250 rushing yards. But I just don’t see it.
Breece goes for roughly 80
Purdy goes for 25
J Brock adds 45 more
We end the day with 160 yards rushing.
I still see a comfortable win

 

[RustShack]

The line seems just insane

Iowa State returns 20 starters. We aren’t breaking in a new OC, or going without one. We have the most overall continuity we’ve had yet, by a lot. Oh and then there’s also like 4 Pre Season All-Americans, 7(?) returning All Big12 players, and the most depth we have ever had.

Our backups could beat UNI.