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Big 10 style of play (slow and in the half court) really benefits a traditional 5. I agree there. But of the guys listed. Only two remain in the tournament.

Krutwig is far more skilled than a "traditional 5". He's really a point forward as Raft says in this clip. Hardly any of his scoring is back to the basket



Dickinson is a throwback traditional big for sure. I would take a 7'1" top 50 recruit if TJ can go get one of those


What is Krutwig's baby hook if not a back to the basket move? He's a good passer with good instincts. Same with Dickinson. Their basketball IQ is infinitely higher than anything we've seen since Niang in the post.
 
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Big 10 style of play (slow and in the half court) really benefits a traditional 5. I agree there. But of the guys listed. Only two remain in the tournament.

Krutwig is far more skilled than a "traditional 5". He's really a point forward as Raft says in this clip. Hardly any of his scoring is back to the basket



Dickinson is a throwback traditional big for sure. I would take a 7'1" top 50 recruit if TJ can go get one of those


I wouldn't agree with Raftery in Krutwig being a point forward, he didn't attempt a 3 point shot this season. Maybe a point center because he can dribble & pass. Krutwig is skilled in his footwork/shooting near the basketball. Does a nice job with high/low passes or passing out of the double team.

The Illinois video you linked showed the breadth of his game and value in being able dribble/pass. Obviously, Moser's game plan was to use Krutwig to pull Cockburn away from the basket and free up the lane and take advantage of Cockburn guarding in space. He did a great job.

But if you watch his other games, he played the role of a traditional 5 with his back to the basket. In that role, his passing skills were also exceptional.

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Dickson was a top 50 kid, but the other 4 guys I mentioned were not top 100 kids. IMO having a skilled post improves the looks that 3 point shooters can get, especially if the traditional post is a good passer.

Not sure I would agree with the Big10 being slow. It is definitely a physical conference, I think if you look at PPG the Big12 & Big10 were pretty even.
 
I wouldn't agree with Raftery in Krutwig being a point forward, he didn't attempt a 3 point shot this season. Maybe a point center because he can dribble & pass. Krutwig is skilled in his footwork/shooting near the basketball. Does a nice job with high/low passes or passing out of the double team.

The Illinois video you linked showed the breadth of his game and value in being able dribble/pass. Obviously, Moser's game plan was to use Krutwig to pull Cockburn away from the basket and free up the lane and take advantage of Cockburn guarding in space. He did a great job.

But if you watch his other games, he played the role of a traditional 5 with his back to the basket. In that role, his passing skills were also exceptional.

Krutwig Low Post

Dickson was a top 50 kid, but the other 4 guys I mentioned were not top 100 kids. IMO having a skilled post improves the looks that 3 point shooters can get, especially if the traditional post is a good passer.

Not sure I would agree with the Big10 being slow. It is definitely a physical conference, I think if you look at PPG the Big12 & Big10 were pretty even.
Who says you have to shoot to be a point forward. The name that comes to my head for college point forward is Royce White, and he did not shoot. Not sure where your definitions are coming from.
 
Who says you have to shoot to be a point forward. The name that comes to my head for college point forward is Royce White, and he did not shoot. Not sure where your definitions are coming from.
Ben Simmons was / is a point forward and he couldn't shoot a lick either. Still can't lol.
 
I wouldn't agree with Raftery in Krutwig being a point forward, he didn't attempt a 3 point shot this season. Maybe a point center because he can dribble & pass. Krutwig is skilled in his footwork/shooting near the basketball. Does a nice job with high/low passes or passing out of the double team.

The Illinois video you linked showed the breadth of his game and value in being able dribble/pass. Obviously, Moser's game plan was to use Krutwig to pull Cockburn away from the basket and free up the lane and take advantage of Cockburn guarding in space. He did a great job.

But if you watch his other games, he played the role of a traditional 5 with his back to the basket. In that role, his passing skills were also exceptional.

Krutwig Low Post

Dickson was a top 50 kid, but the other 4 guys I mentioned were not top 100 kids. IMO having a skilled post improves the looks that 3 point shooters can get, especially if the traditional post is a good passer.

Not sure I would agree with the Big10 being slow. It is definitely a physical conference, I think if you look at PPG the Big12 & Big10 were pretty even.
Isn't that a point forward?
 
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Conditt was 10x better defender than Solo on the PNR. Conditt was pretty solid in hedging out on ball screens. I agree CSP's defense typically put Solo and Conditt in tough situations. Guarding smaller players on the switch or having to scramble back to be a post defender.

My biggest issue with CSP's defense was he loved to switch ball screens. To develop defensive toughness, I would love for TJ to focus on guards learning to fight through ball screens, especially when the screen is being set by an opposing post player.

One day people are going to realize that it’s hard to defend the high ball screen/high P & R at a high level...that’s why almost every offense in the NBA uses some variation of it.
 
Yup. Key piece is to keep Hunter committed. With him, you get a primary ball handler who wants to attack the basket. Secondary ball handler, Bolton can both shoot and attack the hoop. In the COTZ (Hoiball) pick and roll game. You want to surround Hunter with as many shooters as possible. That either clears the lane for a layup/dunk or forces help in which you kick out to a shooter

Bolton is likely gone per rumors on another board.
 


In fairness, Shaq can’t figure it out yet either. College isn’t the NBA, but Candace Parker lays it out pretty clearly here.


One day a coach is going to revolutionize the high ball/high p&r defense. I almost think you have to aggressively double the ball from the wing off the other teams worst three point shooter so the ball handler isn’t so comfortable, force them to speed up mentally and make a bad decision either via a bad shot or a bad pass and just take your chances.
 
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One day people are going to realize that it’s hard to defend the high ball screen/high P & R at a high level...that’s why almost every offense in the NBA uses some variation of it.

It's hard to defend when you have a good dribbling player that doesn't get flustered by a double team at the point of the screen. Bolton and our other guards would turn it over a lot when that double team came
 
Thanks for this. It reaffirms my initial take which was to give this kid time to actually play for us before calling him a reach or claiming he's some magic elixir to help us win.

From those comments, it seems like we're getting a nice bench piece who will work his butt off. Two things that we definitely needed.
Except WSU was is very deep at the wing and we are weakest there. I think he is much more valuable to us than he was to WSU.
 
Photo at the top of the thread reminds me of this guy from the great NW.
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One day people are going to realize that it’s hard to defend the high ball screen/high P & R at a high level...that’s why almost every offense in the NBA uses some variation of it.

Need guys with the skill to execute it. That's not a given at the college level. Prohm insisted on staying with it even when we had no PG and an undersized center who was zero threat to pop to the 3 point line.