***Official 2021 NCAA Tournament Thread***

[CychiatricWard]

We had quite the streak of that as well. Not in consecutive years, but North Carolina back in 2005, Kentucky with Royce, UConn with Georges.

Tends to happen when you are an 8/9 seed. Oklahoma played hard but even on a bad day Gonzaga is just too much.

 

[HoopsTournament]

We had quite the streak of that as well. Not in consecutive years, but North Carolina back in 2005, Kentucky with Royce, UConn with Georges.

We have lost to eventual champion 5 times:

Utah - 1944
Michigan State - 2000
North Carolina - 2005
Kentucky - 2012
UConn - 2014

 

[GTO]

I think Abilene-Christian is about to get Oregoned by UCLA.

 

[NoCreativity]

Duck message board:

Oregon has done far better at guarding the 3 from anyone not named Garza than I expected. Also, Iowa's defense is just absolute Swiss cheese. It's obvious that they've pretty much phoned it in in the second half, but it wasn't good in the first half when they were giving full effort. They need 3 more players on the court to stop Oregon's offense.

This game is why Altman is a premiere coach, adapt to the talent you have and get the most out of them. He doesn’t whine at the refs, make excuses about seeding/etc, embarrass his players. Just show up and play.

Altman is the man. He made the right coaching adjustments, and Iowa coach is lost.

Intelligent fanabase over there. It's a guards game in the tourney and Frans 3 star guards from the I-380 corridor aren't going to cut it against elite athletes like Oregon.

 

[stormchaser2014]

Abilene in trouble. Go Ohio.

 

[madguy30]

Was outdooring so missed the early game but sounds like I was actually right for once.

Good backcourt and that's it.

Is the Pac 12 the most underseeded conference ever?

 

[cyclones500]

@HoopsTournament can verify, only two 14 seeds have reached Sweet 16, Cleveland State (1986) and Chattanooga (1997).

Doesn't appear likely the streak will be broken by Abilene-C.

Edit: Thanks to @HoopsTournament for setting me straight on the years.

 

[CYEATHAWK]

Was outdooring so missed the early game but sounds like I was actually right for once.

Good backcourt and that's it.

Is the Pac 12 the most underseeded conference ever?

Hard to tell. I don't know if it's that Oregon was too good to be a 7, or Iowa the worst 2 seed ever. I know they lost to Abilene, but TTU would have been a much better game for UCLA.

 

[cyclones500]

Hard to tell. I don't know if it's that Oregon was too good to be a 7, or Iowa the worst 2 seed ever.

Seeding and bracketing of UO and Iowa seemed about right.

7-over-2 is so common probably can't draw a lot of conclusions about it.

 

[bluestarcyclone]

Hard to tell. I don't know if it's that Oregon was too good to be a 7, or Iowa the worst 2 seed ever. I know they lost to Abilene, but TTU would have been a much better game for UCLA.

Texas lost to Abilene.

 

[madguy30]

Hard to tell. I don't know if it's that Oregon was too good to be a 7, or Iowa the worst 2 seed ever. I know they lost to Abilene, but TTU would have been a much better game for UCLA.

Semantics but wasn't it UT?

It will be interesting to see who else makes it through.

 

[cyclones500]

Abilene in trouble. Go Ohio.

Let's make it "Go-Hio" -- snappier!

(I'm sure I'm the first person ever to think of that. )

 

[HoopsTournament]

Was outdooring so missed the early game but sounds like I was actually right for once.

Good backcourt and that's it.

Is the Pac 12 the most underseeded conference ever?

Out of the multi-bid conferences, here are the ones that had the most wins over expected in tournament history (since 1985):

Year	Conference	Teams	Avg Wins	Avg Exp	Avg Win Over Exp
2014​	Southeastern	3​	3.67​	1.55​	2.11​
1996​	Southeastern	4​	3.50​	1.42​	2.08​
2013​	Missouri Valley	2​	2.50​	0.75​	1.75​
1990​	Atlantic Coast	5​	2.80​	1.22​	1.58​
1986​	Southeastern	4​	3.00​	1.44​	1.56​
1985​	Big East	6​	3.00​	1.57​	1.43​
2006​	Colonial	2​	2.00​	0.61​	1.39​
2003​	Big East	4​	3.00​	1.62​	1.38​
1990​	Southwest	3​	2.33​	0.95​	1.38​
1988​	Big Eight	5​	2.80​	1.51​	1.29​

The expected wins by seed (not counting First Four) for each of the Pac 12 seeds this year would be:

5 - Colorado (1.11)
6 - USC (1.07)
7 - Oregon (0.91)
11 - UCLA (0.61)
12 - Oregon State (0.51)

So total expected wins for Pac 12 would be 4.21 or an average of 0.84. So to be the most underseeded ever, they would need to average 2.11 + 0.84 wins or 2.95 wins. So if they have a total of 15 wins (not including First Four), they will surpass 2014 SEC as the most underseeded.

If you count Oregon's no contest as a "win", then so far they have 7 wins. So it is still incomplete, but if they keep playing like this, they have a shot at being the most underseeded.

Just 11 wins put them in the top 10.

 

[HoopsTournament]

@HoopsTournament can verify, only two 14 seeds have reached Sweet 16, both in 1986 (Cleveland State and Chattanooga).

Doesn't appear likely the streak will be broken by Abilene-C.

Teams are correct, but Chattanooga was in 1997.

 

[cyclones500]

Teams are correct, but Chattanooga was in 1997.

Ooops thanks for correction. Something seemed off when I found it. I'm going to amend my initial post.

 

[HoopsTournament]

LSU up early on Michigan. I am shocked that a Big 10 team is losing. Just shocked.

 

[cyclones500]

Strange things happen in the tournament so I risk being premature, but, I think Ohio is toast.

 

[Jer]

The announcers on LSU vs Michigan said the Big 10 had such a terrible first 2 rounds because "maybe they're too good" and beat each other up too much. The excuses are running heavy and deep.

 

[Clonehomer]

LSU up early on Michigan. I am shocked that a Big 10 team is losing. Just shocked.

Big10 fans watching Michigan game, then the rest of the country remembering that Maryland is in the Big10 now so the collapse can continue:

 

[CySmurf]