Coaching Search: Place your bets

I’m not worried about Jamie getting a good coach. Even good coaches can not workout. Prohm was a good coach if you look at his prior stint. Chizik was a good hire, McDermott has succeeded everywhere except Iowa State. So we will hire a good coach. Will he be able to succeed is a different thing
 
It’s what he did here as an assistant. Which is get us some of the best players we’ve ever had. I don’t know why people have to be pedantic ******** about everything.

And I don’t know why people have to continually sell him to us. He’s fine. He’ll probably do fine.

Don’t tell us we have to be excited about hiring someone when I’d the tables were turned, we’d be laughing about it.
 
Pollard really F’d up the state of men’s basketball program. He didn’t take care of Hoiberg as well as he could have, and then when Hoiberg left he could have done the right thing and gone big with a proven winner. Would have been an easy transition to long term success. Instead he went with a mid major coach to save a couple bucks in a league that is stacked with top notch coaches. The program tanked and here we are with 2 wins. Bringing the program back to where it was will now be ten times harder. And now TJ Otzelberger is the guy Pollard wants? This is just totally unacceptable in my view. You pick TJ and you’re giving up on Men’s basketball.
 
It’s important for getting the job. I’m not sure it’s important for success.
What’s important for success is the ability to grow and get better as a coach, which comes from self reflection in areas of improvement. Prohm did not and does not do that. If TJ is the coach (I don’t think he will be) then I would hope JP asks TJ the tough questions and won’t just bull s*** the interview because TJ is a friend.

TJ should be asked what areas he needs to improve in and how he plans on fixing that.
 
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Pollard really F’d up the state of men’s basketball program. He didn’t take care of Hoiberg as well as he could have, and then when Hoiberg left he could have done the right thing and gone big with a proven winner. Would have been an easy transition to long term success. Instead he went with a mid major coach to save a couple bucks in a league that is stacked with top notch coaches. The program tanked and here we are with 2 wins. Bringing the program back to where it was will now be ten times harder. And now TJ Otzelberger is the guy Pollard wants? This is just totally unacceptable in my view. You pick TJ and you’re giving up on Men’s basketball.

Who were the proven winner candidates?
 
Pollard really F’d up the state of men’s basketball program. He didn’t take care of Hoiberg as well as he could have, and then when Hoiberg left he could have done the right thing and gone big with a proven winner. Would have been an easy transition to long term success. Instead he went with a mid major coach to save a couple bucks in a league that is stacked with top notch coaches. The program tanked and here we are with 2 wins. Bringing the program back to where it was will now be ten times harder. And now TJ Otzelberger is the guy Pollard wants? This is just totally unacceptable in my view. You pick TJ and you’re giving up on Men’s basketball.
None of us know what Pollard wants or what Pollard is going to do. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
 
I think Jamie is a good business man and knows that there is only one man out there who will immediately put butts in the seats and that man resides in Lincoln, Nebraska.

I think Jamie knows people are going to buy tickets regardless. I’ll be buying tickets no matter who is the coach and most people will as well.
 
Pollard really F’d up the state of men’s basketball program. He didn’t take care of Hoiberg as well as he could have, and then when Hoiberg left he could have done the right thing and gone big with a proven winner. Would have been an easy transition to long term success. Instead he went with a mid major coach to save a couple bucks in a league that is stacked with top notch coaches. The program tanked and here we are with 2 wins. Bringing the program back to where it was will now be ten times harder. And now TJ Otzelberger is the guy Pollard wants? This is just totally unacceptable in my view. You pick TJ and you’re giving up on Men’s basketball.

Pretty sure President Leath hired Prohm by stepping on Pollard's toes. Wanted a good ole' southern boy.

Pollard wanted to hire TJ
 

1)His teams win

also: From the area(Minn), they play great D, rebound at an ELITE level, are efficient on offense and he's a likeable guy

Thanks, I’ll take a look and see if I have any more questions. My first reason for asking was that he is from the Tim Miles coaching tree (about 10 years as an assistant to Miles). That alone led to my question.

EDIT: The link doesn’t help. I mean...it opens and I see what it shows me, but my question still exists
 
I think Jamie knows people are going to buy tickets regardless. I’ll be buying tickets no matter who is the coach and most people will as well.
While true, the tickets would sky rocket under Fred. He’s must see. And imagine, hypothetically if Fred came here and by the Basketball God’s good graces we all of a sudden became good quickly.. We’d be one of the most talked about teams in the nation because of our head coach’s name and the history that goes along with him.
 
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Sounds like you prefer T.J. What happened to the Fred rumor?

TJ is definitely my second choice. Instant recruiting upgrade. Craig Smith can bring his system here all he wants. Nothing good is going to happen without hitting the ground running in recruiting.
 
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This is just totally unacceptable in my view. You pick TJ and you’re giving up on Men’s basketball.

I am lukewarm on TJ at best, but the above is just emotional hyperbole.

TJ is a good recruiter, I think that is proven. He has good connections in the midwest and at ISU, so he isn't out of place in that sense. So we are already a step up on status quo. If hired, I will hope it works out, but won't be super confident. Frankly, that's how I felt about Fred when he was hired (and would again if he were re-hired).

Are there concerns about TJ? Heck yeah. But to say "giving up on bball" is ridiculous.
 
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TJ is definitely my second choice. Instant recruiting upgrade. Craig Smith can bring his system here all he wants. Nothing good is going to happen without hitting the ground running in recruiting.
TJ better bring a coach that can help him with X’s and O’s. Smith better bring in some who can help with recruiting. They’re both similar risks in my eyes.
 
What have you seen from T.J. at UNLV to make you think he should be Prohm’s replacement? Much better candidates are out there.
Read the long post. I'll provide a shorter version here. He has seen what works at Iowa State. He has extensive P5 experience which I think is a big deal for me. He has basically the stereotypical resume of what it takes to be successful here IMO.

Before this year I would have taken him pretty much no questions asked. I thought he was the better choice when we hired Prohm and he had done nothing, but further that opinion every year before this year. He was extremely successful in keeping and expanding on the success at SDSU. He took over a harder situation than I think people give credit. Nagy had been there 20 years and was that program. He took UNLV to 2nd place in his first year. Even in his first "bad" year they were still competitive and show promise. It has given me pause in that I think you need a full search, but I think it maybe gives us a buy low opportunity as I still think he will be a P6 coach in the next couple of years.

The other candidates have their own flaws. DeVries has coached at two places ever and only P6 experience. Smith has some P5 experience but only a couple of years and at Nebraska. Nagy has only a couple of years P5 experience 30 years ago. Matta and Beilein are to expensive and to old for me. I just am not seeing anyone who is clearly better. There are alternatives, but I don't think anyone is clearly better.