Anyone else hearing that JP has already decided Prohm is coming back?

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There is definitely some “disagreement”, and the relationship between the two is the likely hang-up (not the buyout). Not necessarily a bad relationship but prohibitive to Hoiball 2.0. It’s very common in these situations for there to be conditional interest. If JP wanted it to happen, it could. And that’s why donors are talking.

If Fred really wants to come back and donors are willing to step up to take care of the $$$ side of it without further damage to Pollard's admittedly wounded budget... and JP refuses because of some spat with Fred over past grievances, ones that Fred has gotten over if he really wants to come back to Ames like that...

JP is asking to be fired. Just signed his own death warrant. Campbell or not.
 

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Hoiberg kind of cracked this code...

-- build free-flowing offense that generates lots of open jump shots
-- recruit guys who make jump shots, regardless of their other basketball skills

= instant powerhouse offense.

Other teams have put more emphasis on these now, too, though, so Fred has a barer cupboard to work with rather than undervalued assets that fit into his system. Nebraska is hard to recruit to, too, obviously.
I certainly agree with this. I don't agree with the person who said Fred and Prohm's offense is the same lol. There is so much more going on in Fred's offense compared to Prohm's.
 

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Exactly. It's the time when everyone feels they are more important and in-the-know than they really are. "My source this and my source that" only to have JP do something none of their "sources" saw coming.
 

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Solo mustered up 3 rebounds in the last 2 games. Sorry, that's not playing hard.
I thank Solo for everything he's done and understand this season has been horrific and tough for him and the program, but last night I almost punched a wall after he literally stood there and watched his man miss a layup, get the rebound, and put it right back in.

Absolutely zero effort, and to make matters worse, Steve didn't give a s***. Those types of plays are usually the ones where you get pulled and chewed out by an assistant. You can tell our coaches know their fate.
 

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Exactly. It's the time when everyone feels they are more important and in-the-know than they really are. "My source this and my source that" only to have JP do something none of their "sources" saw coming.
I'm actually excited / horrified by this happening. I could see a guy coming out of no where that we all are excited about, while I could also see us hiring a guy that we all go "wait what? F***."
 
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If Fred really wants to come back and donors are willing to step up to take care of the $$$ side of it without impacted Pollard's admittedly wounded budget... and JP refuses because of some spat with Fred over past grievances, ones that Fred has gotten over if he really wants to come back to Ames like that...

JP is asking to be fired. Just signed his own death warrant. Campbell or not.
Just my opinion, but I don’t think Fred is enough of a sure bet to say that.

And i don’t think that’s an accurate description.
 
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I didn’t watch our last two games but I was at the previous two home games. And I will say that our guys played hard. They were diving for loose balls and really trying. I think that when those players are old like me and thinking about the god awful 20 game losing streak, they will at least be able to tell their kids they kept working.



Have you watched Solomon Young?
 

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If Fred really wants to come back and donors are willing to step up to take care of the $$$ side of it without further damage to Pollard's admittedly wounded budget... and JP refuses because of some spat with Fred over past grievances, ones that Fred has gotten over if he really wants to come back to Ames like that...

JP is asking to be fired. Just signed his own death warrant. Campbell or not.

lets assume fred wants to come back but demands no nba buyout, doesn’t say he wants to recruit, and says Matt A will come with. Jamie would be stupid to take that deal.
 

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There was a ton of stuff going on behind the scenes of that team that caused a lot of what happened on the court. That stuff going on was mostly due to 1 or 2 players (I'm not naming names). Fred allowed too much and it ended up hurting the team in the end.

Roommates, perhaps? That season seemed a perfect example of Bill Simmons’ theory that it’s ok to have one knucklehead on a team, but no more than one.
 

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Roommates, perhaps? That season seemed a perfect example of Bill Simmons’ theory that it’s ok to have one knucklehead on a team, but no more than one.
They were not roommates, however one of them caused their roommate to fall to their level at times.
 
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I remember my high school coach stressing to us the effort we had to put out on offense to "earn" good shot attempts - to increase our FG %.
Nebraska does not do this - they just jack up shots. Just because a shot is "open" does not mean it's a "good look."


If it's wide open, how is it not a good shot? Then only way it wouldn't be is if a low % shooter is taking the shot. Like, if Kelvin Cato was taking open threes, then yeah, that would be a bad shot. Players need to make open shots. At least 40-50% of them.
 
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If Fred really wants to come back and donors are willing to step up to take care of the $$$ side of it without further damage to Pollard's admittedly wounded budget... and JP refuses because of some spat with Fred over past grievances, ones that Fred has gotten over if he really wants to come back to Ames like that...

JP is asking to be fired. Just signed his own death warrant. Campbell or not.

Nonsense like this is why Fred leaving after having some success in Ames will forever be a problem for the athletics department at ISU going forward.

People are just too emotionally tied up in the guy. Fred doesn't want to be your idol, dude.
 

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If it's wide open, how is it not a good shot? Then only way it wouldn't be is if a low % shooter is taking the shot. Like, if Kelvin Cato was taking open threes, then yeah, that would be a bad shot. Players need to make open shots. At least 40-50% of them.

i heard last night on the baylor broadcast that they were almost dead last in FT attemps per game. their athletes drive the ball and then they just kick out for 3's. most of the time are open.

seems to work well for them. open threes are usually good shots for shooters who can shoot them
 
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Nonsense like this is why Fred leaving after having some success in Ames will forever be a problem for the athletics department at ISU going forward.

People are just too emotionally tied up in the guy. Fred doesn't want to be your idol, dude.

I think he might want that. But he shouldn’t be.
 

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Nonsense like this is why Fred leaving after having some success in Ames will forever be a problem for the athletics department at ISU going forward.

People are just too emotionally tied up in the guy. Fred doesn't want to be your idol, dude.

Yeah, I moved on a long time ago, and there are plenty of coaches that can have success in Ames.

The (unwanted) cult of personality around Fred is a problem.
 

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Exactly. It's the time when everyone feels they are more important and in-the-know than they really are. "My source this and my source that" only to have JP do something none of their "sources" saw coming.

Yep....and if Prohm is let go.....then there will be even more "sources" outside the CF space.....i.e. agents working their networks to either get their guys a look OR a new contract at their current place.
 
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Nonsense like this is why Fred leaving after having some success in Ames will forever be a problem for the athletics department at ISU going forward.

People are just too emotionally tied up in the guy. Fred doesn't want to be your idol, dude.
And people trying to water down the 4 year stretch that Fred had as "having some success" are making expectations seem unrealistic. Fred didn't just have "some success". He had 4 straight 20+ win seasons (most of all time), had a 28 win season (2nd most of all time), won 2 Big 12 Tournaments in a row (record), and brought in numerous players who are now in the NBA and/or should get their jerseys retired.