Out of the 7 seasons Fred has coached, two of them have been complete rebuilds and one has been a year in which there was a pandemic lol. Context is incredibly important. The fact that you honestly believe Fred should be winning in year two at the worst P5 basketball school in the country, in a COVID year, with entirely new players is ridiculous.
And I guess John Beilein gets a pass for "just not good at the NBA level", while Fred gets the label as a bad coach.. I mean, you really flip flopped your stance there lol. Fred going to a pathetic school like Nebraska is his own fault, but you can't tell me if John Beilein would go to DePaul next year he'd be hanging banners in his second year.
Let's get it straight though - I'm not at all saying the things you claim that I am.
Should Hoiberg be winning in year 2 at Nebraska? That depends on what you mean by winning. Do I expect him to have their team in the NCAA or even the NIT this year? No. I did expect him to have kept the team to around .500 in the 19-20 season. I would expect that by year 2, he should have been able to match his predecessor's last conference record (second to last at 6-14) which was bad enough to get him fired. To be fair to them in the pandemic year you don't get as many of those non-con cupcakes to inflate your record. Maybe his team this year would be a .500 type team with a full schedule. But we will never know that.
If you want to compare Beilein and Hoiberg, let's make a fair comparison. We would need to compare Hoiberg in 2019 to Beilein today. I think it's reasonable to assume that both, after failing in the NBA, could come back to college and be successful again. Hoiberg came back 2 years ago and has not been successful. Regardless of excuses, the Nebraska team has performed worse under Hoiberg than it ever did under Miles. If Beilein comes back and 2 years from now is .250, I will equally say he was not successful. I don't expect Beilein would be "hanging banners" two years from now if he were hired by DePaul. But I do expect that by year 2 he would have a team that can compete in his conference at least as well as his predecessor's teams did.
I'm not saying Hoiberg is a terrible coach, or that he always was a terrible coach. I personally believe Hoiberg is an above average college level coach, taken all together. But his performance is trending down. You can make all the excuses you want, but the record doesn't lie. Coaches can get better and worse over time. We've seen it happen many times at ISU. Hoiberg can turn it around, for sure. And maybe he will next year. But he hasn't yet and there is no reason to expect he will have a huge turnaround next year.
