Anyone else hearing that JP has already decided Prohm is coming back?
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WHO CARES WHAT HE DID IN THE NBA lol. By your logic, you wouldn't have hired loads of coaches who tried to tackle professional coaching but didn't make it work.
Why would we hire TJ then if he's done nothing but lose at UNLV? Why hire John Beilein if he was so awful at coaching the Cavs?
We hear people wanting to hire Jeff Hornacek because he has NBA coaching experience, here are his and Fred's career NBA winning percentages:
Hornacek: .427
Hoiberg: .426
There are certainly teams that have been solid in that conference outside of Belmont and Murray State, but you'd have to go back to the '08-'09 season to find another team besides those two that have won the conference outright. My whole point was that I'm not fascinated by Prohm's resume at Murray State because the school he coached for is a juggernaut in that conference and he road the coattails of that as well as Billy Kennedy, just like he did here with Fred. The only difference was that he's not in the OVC anymore and his methods don't work in this good of a league.
Not sure if he would commit right away but the crystal balls would floweth over for ISU.
If TJ's done nothing but lose at UNLV, then don't hire him. I don't know his exact record there and honestly am not interested enough to look it up.
John Beilein has won consistently at the college level. He has 27 seasons in Division 1 NCAA and an overall winning record as a coach. He's had a winning record at every stop in the NCAA. One year of terrible results in the NBA is a fluke, showing he's just not good at the NBA level. He's had only 4 seasons below .500 in the NCAA, having winning seasons in 85% of the years he's coached D1 NCAA. He's never had back to back losing seasons in his career. I'm not saying hire Beilein, but I'd be open to hiring him. His track record is entirely different than Hoiberg's.
Hoiberg has coached 2 consecutive seasons of losing basketball in the NCAA, and 2 consecutive losing seasons in the NBA before that. But throw out the NBA. In the NCAA he's got a track record of having winning seasons 4 out of 7 years, only about 57% of the time. Losing is becoming a pattern for Hoiberg. He can still break out of it, but imo it's not justified for us to take a chance on a coach who is on a downward trend.
That is why you go for a Turgeon or a Ford who has coached at this level in this league for many years. Their methods may not have won any championships before, but outside of conference tourney trophies.....neither did Fred's. So get someone who has sat in the captains chair.....and then give him the resources to get the best assistants and recruiters possible.
If we weren't matching the 100k for Rashad Vaughn, we definitely weren't matching the 200k for Diallo. Diallo was a pipe dream and revisionist history wants to make it seem we would have landed him had Fred stayed.
Great name, but at Creighton he had to concede the best name title to his assistant **** Flick.
Well... yeah? I mean what's the point here.
If TJ didn't coach here, he wouldn't be mentioned at all for the position either. Ties to the program matter.
Just looking at records at non ISU schools we should just keep Prohm. He was really good at Murray St.
I think there's a bigger problem that we go winless in conference. The 2 wins against cupcakes don't really matter to me as much as the fact that we couldn't take a game off our peers one time.
Giving some minor slack, Prohm got slightly more mileage out of the coattails at Murray compared to at ISU. First in division all 4 years (albeit no ncaa bid final 3 years) and 2 OVC COY awards fwiw (one was year 1, the other year 4).
not sure why you keep saying that, everyone wanted Prohm to win, he’s just bad
in fact, people are going out of their way to stress that it’s NOT personal, it’s performance
Isn’t Prohm one of the worst coaches Murray St. has had in awhile?
Please don’t feed the village idiot.
