Anyone else hearing that JP has already decided Prohm is coming back?
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Not sure I understand why people think Fred's recruiting classes were drying up.. His final year he brought in Clayton Custer, who won the MVC player of the year and would've been a solid guard in the Big 12 by the time he was done. Giorgos, a 17 year old 7'1" lefty shooting post who had HUGE upside and has been playing professionally ever since. BDJ, one of the most sought after GT's in the nation that year and played in the NBA. Deonte Burton, another sought after transfer who ended up being a fan favorite and played in the NBA. Nick Babb, a very solid player by the time he was done. Hallice Cooke, who had a great freshman year at Oregon State but had terrible injury / health issues.
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Custer’s development really speaks to what a great coach porter moser is, doesn’t it?
Certainly! And I believe they have another MVC POY again this year in Krutwig. I'd be intrigued by Moser but I know he's been hard to pry away from there.
I always look at who guys learn from. And he had good teachers in Tony Barone and of course the great Rick Majerus.
Agreed and I think the last two years of his tenure with all the rumors of him going pro also hurt in getting better players. Competing programs were using that against him/us every chance they could.
Very true - but the reverse is also true - we don't owe him anything either. We, as ISU fans, don't owe Fred Hoiberg for his success as a player or coach, nor does he owe us for supporting him during his time here. His time as part of ISU athletics is over. His coaching at Nebraska is bad and he is performing significantly worse than his predecessor.
In any other situation, regardless of their prior history, would you want to hire the coach who took an already mediocre Nebraska team and drove them down to rock bottom? I wouldn't. Just like I wouldn't hire Prohm now if I was the AD at another P6 school, despite his great success at Murray State. We don't owe Fred Hoiberg special loyalty. He's not coaching good basketball right now and hasn't since he left ISU. The only reason to hire him is some kind of misplaced sense of loyalty or nostalgia.
Fake news.
Diallo was never coming to Ames.
He did have a good shot at some other guys (e.g., Amir Coffey), though.
If ISU would have a hard time getting the Loyola-Chicago coach to come to Ames, our problems are deeper than I thought.
Can’t be worse than the 03 coaching search
LOL 90% of the team left Fred's first year at Nebraska. Remember the old saying "the cupboard was bare" that our fans would use as an excuse for Prohm and some still do? Yeah it actually was bare for Fred. So in year one he had to deal with that and now in year two there's been a pandemic that's kind of thrown a rebuild out of whack. And yes, there is a difference between a guy trying to rebuild a program and dealing with COVID and a guy who is rebuilding his own mess and dealing with COVID.
And Prohm didn't have great success at Murray State lol. He made one NCAA tournament after inherited all of Billy Kennedy's players and then couldn't make it back.
Yeah, people mention getting Diallo but we were never matching the $200k he got from KU/addidas. However, we would have had a very strong chance to land Tyler Cook and Amir Coffey who both landed at less desirable nearby programs.
That's not fair to say lol. We have no idea what his situation is and where he wants to be.
That’s not really fair. They 29 games his last year there and lost in the conference tournament by one to Belmont.
Again, there are enough real things to criticize, no need to make stuff up
If Fred were to come back to ISU, would Tamin Lipsey immediately commit?
I didn't make anything up. It is a fact that Steve Prohm inherited a terrific team from Billy and took them to the NCAA Tournament. It's also a fact that he never made it back there. I could've agreed with you that Prohm's last year they should've gotten an auto-bid, but they didn't.
Either way, the head coach they have there right now went to the NCAA Tournament two years in a row and has won 4 regular season OVC titles. So it's not like Murray State is a tough school to win at. There's really only Belmont as the only other contender in that league.
That's all fine - and ultimately he may prove he's still got it at Nebraska. But he hasn't yet. He last coached a winning season of basketball on the 2015-2016 Bulls (his first year) at a record of 42-40. It's one thing to say he's got an excuse or reason to not have had success at Nebraska yet. That's fine, if you're a Nebraska fan deciding if you want him to stay or go. But for an ISU fan, why hire a coach who coached nothing but losing basketball for the last 5 years? If it was anyone else at Nebraska with two seasons well below .500, even with a potential to do better next year I would not hire them. Essentially, what you're saying is we should come in like Auburn and hire 5-19 Gene Chizik because he had ties to the program. I guess that worked out ok for them in the short term, but it's not a choice I would have made and their short term success was probably more due to certain "extra curricular" activities rather than Chizik's coaching skill.
Again - if it were anyone other than Fred Hoiberg, you would not be sticking your neck out for him like this.
I watch a lot of ovc basketball, because of people I live with. It’s not as simple as you’re making it.
It’s a one bid league that has had some good teams. Eastern kentucky has had success as well as Moorhead state and belmont
