End of January Update Coach Prohm
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Just admit you want lolTJ because you’re nostalgic about the Hoiberg years. That’s the only reason anyone wants lolTJ. And that’s a terrible reason to hire a head coach. Get over it. Move on.
Fred left for Chicago. We get you're still upset about it. I was as well. Get over it. Move on.
Yeah. I would be fine with DeVries or Smith as hires too. I’m not locked in as TJ is the only option. I think he is the best but that’s different. I don’t think DeVries will be interested and I think TJ has a better resume than Smith.
Other names are Medved who I don’t like for how he handled Drake. Some of the previous P5 coaches are too expensive to be clearly better. Who clearly is a better option?
Scott Nagy would be a decent option. I’d have concerns about his lack of real P5 experience but I think he’d be a decent choice. Travis Ford I guess I don’t get what he got that was unfair at OSU. I never was impressed with him.
Nagy should be an interview. He was on my list of 11 back in early January.
Well out of 8 seasons only 2 were bad.....so I guess "unfair" is in the eye of the beholder. He does however have experience in this conference, and knows what type of player to recruit and was a good recruiter in Stillwater. Does any of that mean it would translate to W's up here...who knows. Even in his good years.....he didn't exactly tear the conference up. He knows the environment however and has heading coaching experience in it, so for me that's a plus.
IMO Prohm's failing hasn't been his inability to bring in NBA caliber recruits. It is his inability to sign the next tier of player. And keep them at ISU for 4 years. Personally, I would rather have a roster full of guys who at best end up being overseas professional players. I will take program foundational players like Vroman, Homan, Sullivan, Stinson, Clarke, Gilstrap, Garrett, Ejim, Kane, Hogue, etc. over NBA caliber players.
It is a fine line, because every good HS player has a dream to play in the NBA. But not every player has the patience or work ethic to develop into a solid college player before making the NBA jump.
Prohm has done a great job of attracting top HS talent like: Wigginton, Horton Tucker, Foster & Hunter (I excluded Halliburton because his development into an NBA player within 2 years was a freak occurrance). Where he has struggled is to bring in 3 & 4 star recruits that develop into very good college players and stick around 3-4 years.
For ISU to be a perennial NCAA Tournament team we need those foundational players and then kids like Wigginton, Horton-Tucker, Foster and Hunter can be sprinkled in. If they are ready for a big role from day 1- awesome. If they need so time to develop- then they can fit a valuable role. IMO guys like Morris and Halliburton benefited from such roles.
Fortunately the goal is to have Bowl playing football teams and NCAA Tournament basketball teams. It sucks having a horrible team in either sport. It was miserable to walk out of Jack Trice in the latter McCarney and Rhoads years. And it was miserable to walk out of Hilton the last few years under Prohm.
As others have mentioned for those of us in our 40's and 50's ISU basketball has a special place in our hearts because MBB was special when we were undergrads and it still holds that place in our hearts. That is why the last couple years of losing regularly in Hilton is painful.
As tough as the McDermott years were, I always felt we had talent and were competitive against 80% of the Big12. The last 2 years under Prohm, being competitive is a surprise.
Basketball was special because we were terrible at football. We considered ourselves a BB school. What did that get us though? It almost got us the mountain west. I don’t want the mountain west. I want a good basketball team but realize that if I gotta pick which to put more focus on, it has to be football
So we've gone from throwing in the towel on the coach to throwing in the towel on the sport? Just checking.
Nope. There was talk about people in their 40s would take a good basketball team over a good football team. I’m in my 40s and was saying why I would take a good football team over a good basketball team if push came to shove.
His downfall is that he tries to play an offensive game that relies on having at least two solid 3p shooters but has only gotten one in his entire tenure here and his defensive strategy ******* sucks. If in fact he has a strategy. You don’t kill a guy for bringing in the best talent he can get.
