Cleveland Indians changing name
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"Cleveland Blues" also has some potential, contrasting with the Reds at the other end of Ohio, but we already have a "Blues" in major sports with the St. Louis Blues. Spiders would be unique!
They ALL need to go with "(insert city) baseball team". Or "(insert city) football team". etc.
That is the ONLY way to prevent offense. But even then...
That is the ONLY way to prevent offense. But even then...
Now named the Ohio Indians
can’t believe it took them so long to get rid of that awful name. Cleveland.
can’t believe it took them so long to get rid of that awful name. Cleveland.
Native American groups have been pushing for the change for a long time.
There's several other things that have been cancelled or not allowed for years following pressure from certain groups even though it had no affect on them at all that are now appalled by all of this 'cancel culture'.
Now they're appalled that something got changed that likely didn't affect them one way or another.
It is my understanding that FSU also writes a nice check to Florida's Seminal Tribe each year as part of the agreement to use the name. They are getting paid so all is fine I guess.
I think as long as they've polled the native Americans in the area and gotten feedback from discussions, I'm fine with whatever they decide. There is a balance between respect/consideration and also being afraid to offend anyone or anything.
I totally get how Washington was a slur. I don’t get how Indians was a slur. Maybe not the best terminology because it came from ignorance of who the people are but I have never seen anything derogatory with it.
My issue with this has long been I’m proud of the few teams that hold my ethnicity as their name. I wish there were more teams that had a team name representing my ancestors. I fear that it becomes easier to ignore the problems of the remaining Native Americans when we can ignore that they are still out there.
I don’t really care if they change the names but I wish they could have had the foresight to work with the teams on honoring their people instead of just tearing the names down.
My grandpa was named Bill, think buffalo would give me a pair of free tickets each year?
I think the name Indians was considered derogatory since it wasn't a self used name, could be off and you probably have more knowledge than I especially if you have that in your heritage. Just what I had heard.
My heritage is a different background. My background doesn’t really have many teams named after it. I’d be thrilled if there were as many named after my heritage as there are different Native American names. That’s my frustration. I could get more into that but then it gets to political.
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This is the free market at work. "Cancel culture" is a ridiculous boogeyman. A business decided that they would respond to the current market by changing their product. It's that simple. That's capitalism.
Part of the issue though is who is creating and using the name. I’m catholic and am a descendant of Irish Catholics. I don’t mind that Notre Dame is the fighting Irish because it’s a catholic institution and the Irish have played a major role in its history. I would have a problem if a traditionally Anglo-Saxon Protestant school, like Harvard, were the Fighting Irish and their mascot was a drunk Irishman or a drunk priest.
Also, erasing Native American voices and their history is a problem, but I don’t think using them as mascots really helps either. It’s not like people are saying “I’m really glad I went to that Kansas City, or Washington, or Cleveland game. I’m going to learn more about Native American culture and history now”
