Love that! Hope more coaches outside the B1G say the same things. This is an absolute joke with tOSU being ranked 4th with no resume whatsoever to back that up.
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Love that! Hope more coaches outside the B1G say the same things. This is an absolute joke with tOSU being ranked 4th with no resume whatsoever to back that up.
but data points and conference championships matter.. until they don't that is...
I hear a lot of noise/momentum to increase the size of the playoff to 8 or even 16 teams. I'm telling you now, that is the wrong direction for college football.
There will be random brackets created that make that structure look appealing, and some years it would be, but most years it will not. In fact, it will be worse than what it is now.
Truly the best system was the old fashioned system (or even the BCS). Many will disagree with this but I have a long list of reasons why that is true. We can't compare an 8 or 16-team playoff with the BCS right now because it's never happened but let me predict what will happen.
You're going to have a ton of rematches (ie: Clemson v ND Part 3! ISU v OU Part 3!) which are terrible for the sport and don't truly tell us anything (why should we have to beat OU a third time?) It would weaken the regular season (who gives a **** who wins the Big 12?) The entire focus of the season -- like it has become with this new playoff-- would be about who the top 4 teams are AND THAT'S IT. I bet in the last 90 days ESPN has spent 10 minutes talking about conference championships-- which used to mean something.
It will create an even greater imbalance of power between the Haves and the Have-Nots. Like we're starting to see with AL, Clem, OSU.
I'm telling you, it's a bad direction for college football and even worse for a program like Iowa State. I can go on with my reasoning as well but I'm tired of typing
There will be random brackets created that make that structure look appealing, and some years it would be, but most years it will not. In fact, it will be worse than what it is now.
Truly the best system was the old fashioned system (or even the BCS). Many will disagree with this but I have a long list of reasons why that is true. We can't compare an 8 or 16-team playoff with the BCS right now because it's never happened but let me predict what will happen.
You're going to have a ton of rematches (ie: Clemson v ND Part 3! ISU v OU Part 3!) which are terrible for the sport and don't truly tell us anything (why should we have to beat OU a third time?) It would weaken the regular season (who gives a **** who wins the Big 12?) The entire focus of the season -- like it has become with this new playoff-- would be about who the top 4 teams are AND THAT'S IT. I bet in the last 90 days ESPN has spent 10 minutes talking about conference championships-- which used to mean something.
It will create an even greater imbalance of power between the Haves and the Have-Nots. Like we're starting to see with AL, Clem, OSU.
I'm telling you, it's a bad direction for college football and even worse for a program like Iowa State. I can go on with my reasoning as well but I'm tired of typing
I get what you're saying. In some ways the BCS was better. What's wrong with CFP is we have a group of people who subjectively rank teams with no transparency. I'm not saying it would be better with 8 but if they went to 8 then some of the subjectively would be out since they would have to take the champion of each P5 conference. Then there would be down to selection committee to pick the final 3 amongst the G5 and at large P5 teams. Of course this won't be perfect since the people will gripe about seeding and those 3 at large teams.
The media is stuck on the two loss issue. They just can’t seem to understand that this is a weird year and past years don’t mean as much.
That’s what it should be and I hope I’m wrong but I wouldn’t be surprised if the CFP committee got an earful from Georgia and the SEC for putting ISU and Cincinnati ahead of them. Barta will say Georgia had a great “Top 25” win against Missouri and Iowa State was idle (even though not COVID related) so Georgia gets the nod for #6.
Not sure if it's a logistic possibility with bowls but I would love to play UGA. I just don't think they are that good. It would great to show how fragile the supremacy of SEC is.
An 8 team playoff that takes P5 conference championship game winners, top G5 team if above an established threshold, and remaining 2-3 at large teams based on computer ranking strength, seeded #1 through #8 by BCS formula answers all questions and eliminates the BS in expecting a committee to do the right thing. It eliminates them entirely. Conference championship becomes primary, proving it on the field all season as well. 7 games in three weeks determines an ultimate champion.
The only reason it won't happen is politics among leagues who don't want to risk giving up two coveted playoff positions out of four.
Thinking if Clemson loses again to ND they should be out.
It SHOULD be about finding out who is the best. The fact that a team lost TWICE to one of the other 3 playoff teams basically proves they are not better than them; so they should not be given a chance to undo those 2 earlier games in the same season. Give some other team a chance.
It SHOULD be about finding out who is the best. The fact that a team lost TWICE to one of the other 3 playoff teams basically proves they are not better than them; so they should not be given a chance to undo those 2 earlier games in the same season. Give some other team a chance.
ISU needed a lot of help to get into the playoffs, they got some yesterday, especially if you know how the playoff formula works. (Follow @cfbmatrix, Dave Bartoo, on twitter)
First, OU and WVU not playing was a blessing. WVU is 5-4 and stays above .500 so that will continue to count as a quality win for ISU. TCU beat LA Tech, strengthening TCU. LA Tech is a QW for TCU so again that helps ISU SOS.
Mizzou will not count as a top 25 win for Georgia since Mizzou will now drop out of top 25.
Florida losing to an unranked team at home is not good for their cause at all, we no longer have to worry about them. Cincy has one less data point since they did not play. Oh, how about Miami? They are no longer a worry either.
What does ISU need now? A&M lose to Tennessee. Their win against Florida is not as great now but will still be a top 25 QW. Notre Dame needs to pound Clemson and Ohio St should just not be considered for the playoff since they will have about half as many games as the rest of the contenders. Of course ISU needs to beat OU as well...
First, OU and WVU not playing was a blessing. WVU is 5-4 and stays above .500 so that will continue to count as a quality win for ISU. TCU beat LA Tech, strengthening TCU. LA Tech is a QW for TCU so again that helps ISU SOS.
Mizzou will not count as a top 25 win for Georgia since Mizzou will now drop out of top 25.
Florida losing to an unranked team at home is not good for their cause at all, we no longer have to worry about them. Cincy has one less data point since they did not play. Oh, how about Miami? They are no longer a worry either.
What does ISU need now? A&M lose to Tennessee. Their win against Florida is not as great now but will still be a top 25 QW. Notre Dame needs to pound Clemson and Ohio St should just not be considered for the playoff since they will have about half as many games as the rest of the contenders. Of course ISU needs to beat OU as well...
But it doesn’t though. Coastal Carolina isn’t getting in. What about them? What about BYU? Cincinnati hasn’t beaten a damn team all year but they are benefiting from going undefeated and BYU is getting punished. We can argue semantics all day.
There will be some years were in 8 team Playoff works out perfectly. But most years I promise you it will not. You will end up with a bunch of rematches and you’re still going to have the group of five teams left out
So glad NW beat Hawkeyes by 1pt on Halloween. Otherwise they would be playing against OSU and the winner of that would take the 4th spot.
