So if I’m following correctly, Cincy has now cancelled this game twice, and by doing so ensures they’ll be hosting the CCG vs Tulsa. Whereas if Tulsa had won, they’d host the CCG.
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So if I’m following correctly, Cincy has now cancelled this game twice, and by doing so ensures they’ll be hosting the CCG vs Tulsa. Whereas if Tulsa had won, they’d host the CCG.
If Ohio St wants to shut up all of the critics for their soft resume. They should reach out to Texas A&M and see if they'll play since Ole Miss cancelled on them for COVID
This looks like a real scenario.
Alabama 11-0
ND 10-0
are in and then you're picking between
Tier 1
OSU 7-0 (definitely in if they win the B1G undefeated, but not a fan of this happening)
A&M 9-1 (I think they would make it in with a Clemson & Florida Loss)
Tier 2
ISU 9-2
Clemson 8-2 (both loses to ND, I don't think ND should have the chance of having to beat them 3x)
PAC 12 (I don't think they'll have enough games)
Florida 9-2(lost in SEC Final to Bama and 3x SEC would be bad.
Cincinnati - undefeated would be the only way they have a case.
What if OSU loses in this scenario to go 6-1? Is a B12 Champ ISU that out of line given the other options?
Alabama 11-0
ND 10-0
are in and then you're picking between
Tier 1
OSU 7-0 (definitely in if they win the B1G undefeated, but not a fan of this happening)
A&M 9-1 (I think they would make it in with a Clemson & Florida Loss)
Tier 2
ISU 9-2
Clemson 8-2 (both loses to ND, I don't think ND should have the chance of having to beat them 3x)
PAC 12 (I don't think they'll have enough games)
Florida 9-2(lost in SEC Final to Bama and 3x SEC would be bad.
Cincinnati - undefeated would be the only way they have a case.
What if OSU loses in this scenario to go 6-1? Is a B12 Champ ISU that out of line given the other options?
Cincy has cancelled the game AT Tulsa twice for COVID so now the two teams play in the CCG but it will be AT Cincy since they have a better record. If the game at Tulsa is played and Tulsa wins, the CCG would be AT Tulsa.
Everyone knows the pundits, B10, and CFP committee will prop them up as much as they can so why risk the loss? If OSU gets in without a CCG and with the number of games they played then CFP loses all credibility to me. They should just put who they want in the CFP and not do the charade that the regular season matters. But things won't change, fans will eat it up. The only way it'll change is if the viewing public speaks by turning off their TV's but that won't happen
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Putting an undeserving tOSU team in is a win for the committee and ESPN, they get big 10 eyeballs and plenty of content for the talking heads to discuss the next month.
All things considered, man, so close, so close to the CFP!
And I hope this goes without saying, but a NY6 game is still awesome.
- We take care of business in the Big 12 CCG.
- Tulsa knocks off Cincinnati in their CCG, we jump 'em.
- ND handles Clemson again, we *possibly* jump 'em.
- Bama knocks Florida down a spot or two after the CCG.
- OSU somehow is kept out of the playoff, and the committee doesn't change rules last minute.
And I hope this goes without saying, but a NY6 game is still awesome.
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Why would they want to shut up critics when they have a red carpet path to the playoff?
I see OSU as all or nothing. If they win vs Michigan and NW, they are in for sure. If they lose either, they are out. If they can’t play one or the other, that’s where it gets questionable. If Clemson gets beat again by ND they are out, and A&M is in. It gets really interesting if Clemson wins a close game.
- At the very least the winner of the SEC title game is in. If UF wins, maybe both.
- At least one of ND and Clemson are in. If Clemson wins a close game maybe both
- A&M is winning their last game and ISU isn’t jumping them
- if OSU goes 7-0 ISU isn’t jumping them.
- with Cincinnati only having one crack at Tulsa, I think the Big 12 champ jumps them
- Big 12 champ will be ahead of Georgia.
PAC is out. Cincy will ultimately get jumped, and they probably should. Coastal has a better resume, assuming they beat LA again.
ISU probably needs the following:
Alabama pounds Florida
Ohio state misses or loses a game
ND to beat Clemson, preferably comfortably. Beat OU of course
Then the “nice to haves”
-Okie St beats BU and is in the final ranking
-LA beats Coastal
- TCU sneaks into final CFP ranking
- Cincy lose to Tulsa
- Texas stays in CFP ranking after smoking KU
1. Alabama
2. ND
3. A&M
4. ISU
No individual step is unrealistic by any means, but a lot has to go our way. But all those scenarios would result in ISU going 4-2 vs teams in the final CFP ranking with no losses outside the ranking. I don’t think anyone else will have more than 2 wins vs such teams.
I’m not advocating this but Iowa State has more reason to schedule A&M than Ohio state does. We have to ply our way IN. Ohio State can only play their way OUT.
They might be in regardless of them even playing another game this year. Sad but true
Ohio State - Michigan is off.... oooh boy. Big 10 needs to get cracking on a new game or changing their rules! LOL
What “critics” does OSU have on the CFP and at ESPN? Both places like to use “eye test” as a disguise for “unwarranted benefit of the doubt”.
Well I don’t think it makes a difference but that piece had to fall in to place for our slimmest of slim hopes at this point imo.
Why would they? ESPN will push the CFP to put a 5-0 OSU into the playoff based on “eye test” (see my previous post). The Big 10 has nothing to gain by forcing OSU to play in the conference championship game.
There is something to gain by getting OSU in the championship game, going 6-0 and getting into the playoff, no? Having a team in the playoff is a big deal for the conference and OSU swings a big stick.
Now they are hamstrung though... all other Big 10 games on track to play this week, so no Big 10 opponent unless they cancel another team's game which would be BS. No non-conference games, they already shut that down for others early in the year. The only viable way would be rule change... are they inclined to attempt that? Will they even get buy in from other teams?
Interesting times!
Even having this conversation is wild to me. I would've said that a 2 loss Big12 team is hosed, but it's isn't impossible.
What are the Odds:
Alabama Wins out: 80%
Ohio State Loses One or misses: 20%
ND Wins 50%
ISU Wins 33% (I think it's actually higher, but I'm a homer)
That's 2% chance, which I'll take at this point.
Nothing to gain when a 5-0 sans Big 10 championship OSU will gain entry into the CFP. Everything to lose if a weak West team (NW) proves a 5-1 OSU team to be fraudulent.
