MLB: 2020 Chicago Cubs Season Thread

I don't know how you can have a Division winner facing a freaking elimination game in their second playoff game and think that is a good format. It's asinine. The only way it works is with byes or at least 5 games.

My thoughts exactly. If you want to do best of 3, fine, but you at least need to give division winners byes or something. It's just a bad, poorly thought out format.
 
I was pretty much at this point coming into this season before Covid hit too. They had options to trade Bryant for a decent haul that they won't have now, probably same for Schwarber too. If they had a full 162 game season this year and had fallen out of contention by mid July there are pieces on this roster they could have sold off to re-stock the farm system too but all that is out the window now.

They have to do something about the pitching staff one way or another next season because there is not a lot of depth under team control after this season

Starters: Hendricks, Darvish, and Mills are under contract and Lester has an option they will likely buy out and either move on or possibly try to bring him back on a cheaper deal so you are looking at having to find at least 1 or 2 starters. Mills is a back of the rotation guy so they really need a solid #3 and another 4/5 guy. Not sure Alzolay is ready either or if he can make it through a full season healthy so either need to trade for or sign a starter or 2. Bullpen Kimbrel is the only guaranteed contract with Ryan and Tepera arbitration eligible and Wick, Wieck, Underwood, Norwood, and Adam under team control so bullpen once again probably will be looking for cheap veteran guys on short deals like they did with Jeffress and Winkler this year.

Position players at this point you know Heyward is not going to opt out of his contract, Happ is under team control through 2023 and I have warmed up to the idea of keeping him around when I would have been all for trading him the past few years. After next season the only guys under team control are Heyward, Hoerner, Bote, Contreras, Caratini, and Happ. May be time to consider trading one of the catchers who may be their most valuable trade assets right now. They have Amaya in the minors at that position as one of their top prospects. As far as extensions go I think Rizzo is the most realistic given his age and history with the organization that he is not going to break the bank and he is still a very productive 1B right now. Maybe Javy's struggles at the plate this season brings his price tag down a bit but other than that I am done with Bryant even if he has a big 2021 season and I think the really missed the mark on trading Schwarber at his peak value as I don't think he is an elite player worth a big contract. I love Contreras fire and his cannon arm but Caratini is probably a more economical option and not a huge drop off in production hitting at the position but if you can get something of value in a trade for either of them there is no reason they need to be holding on to 2 starting caliber catchers with a top prospect at the position in the minors when there are other needs to fill.

2021 is basically a crossroads season. Do they go all in and add some big pieces to this current roster and make a push then gut the thing after the season or do they start to strategically move pieces now and speed up an inevitable rebuild. I don't think hoping the current roster will eventually figure it out and the light comes on if they keep it intact is going to end with a positive result.

Concern with Rizzo is I’m fairly confident his agent came out and essentially said they gave us a deal with his last contract so they’ll be looking to make a haul this time around
 
I think you need to lock up Rizzo and Baez. The other free agents you can work around - keeping some and moving others depending on the deals you can make. I think people undervalue a consistently reliable first baseman until you don't have one. So many throwing errors by Cubs defenders become outs because Rizzo is still able to make the play. Baez is just so much fun to watch defensively and on the base paths. I really wonder how many runs he has saved both with catching base stealers with the snap tag and the steal that is never attempted because he is back there.
 
Concern with Rizzo is I’m fairly confident his agent came out and essentially said they gave us a deal with his last contract so they’ll be looking to make a haul this time around

That would surprise me a bit because this current deal he is on he probably got more money over the course of that than had they just went through arbitration. I believe that it was a 7 year $41 mil deal with team options for 2020 and 2021 which at the time that was signed was a pretty good deal for someone that didn't have much service time yet. More info here: https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/spo... a seven-year,the first baseman $16.5 million.

I'd love to have Rizzo retire a Cub but if it turns into a situation like the Cardinals had with Pujols where the years and money don't make sense financially. 1B is not a hard position to replace a player and they have some guys already on the roster that could be moved to 1B too if needed. Hopefully they come to terms on a deal because he's probably one of my favorite all time Cubs players.
 
I have no issue giving Rizzo a deal, as long as it's within reason. Great glove, great leader and will continue to have some power. Javy I'm torn on. He's been horrible this year, but he still has value. Do you move him while you still can, realizing you may look foolish if he starts playing at a higher level? I don't know.

KB you let walk. I wouldn't even toss out an offer.
 
What concerns me with Rizzo is he seems to have back issues every year. He usually only misses a small amount of time but concerned one of these years it's going to be a long absence or a season ender.
 
I have no issue giving Rizzo a deal, as long as it's within reason. Great glove, great leader and will continue to have some power. Javy I'm torn on. He's been horrible this year, but he still has value. Do you move him while you still can, realizing you may look foolish if he starts playing at a higher level? I don't know.

KB you let walk. I wouldn't even toss out an offer.

Javy is worth a risk of extending at a reasonable contract for his glove and all out effort he gives plus the fan appeal because he is so fun to watch.. He was trending the right way at the plate until this year if you look at his batting average which has been between .273-.290 the past 3 seasons and it was just 2 seasons ago he posted a 6.3 WAR. I guess you could make a similar case for Bryant but I have more concerns about how Bryant always seems to be hurt lately plus as a Boras client you can throw any reasonable contract offer out the door because he's going to hold out for a mega deal or at worst Boras will find him a 1-2 year "prove it" deal somewhere that still pays a ridiculous amount of money for taking a short term deal. The fight over his service time is all you need to know about where KB stands on his next contract negotiations. He isn't going to cut the Cubs a home team discount. Really wished they had tried harder to move him before this season while she still had 2 years of control left which could have brought back more than now on his last year and coming off a poor season.
 
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Sixto blowing it right by us right now. Hopefully somebody will eventually catch up to one.
 
Couldn't tell, was that a send or did Willie blow through it? Watching it live you knew he wasn't going to make it on that....
 
He was sent. He got a late break making sure the ball wasn't caught. I like the send and forcing the play at home. Took a perfect throw and it was.

I'm normally all for being aggressive in those spots for the reason you stated, but like I said, watching it live it didn't even look like it would be close...
 
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He was sent. He got a late break making sure the ball wasn't caught. I like the send and forcing the play at home. Took a perfect throw and it was.

It was an aggressive call by 3rd base coach, but he is only out with a great throw by Joyce.

The next batter has maybe a 25% chance getting Contreras home. IMO Joyce's odds of throwing him out were less than 50%.
 
Bryant has at least had some good at bats this game. That last AB might have been a HR if the wind wasn't blowing in. Baez and Rizzo just look lost out there.
 

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