Modern college basketball or modern Cyclone basketball? There is room for other definitions, but it’s reasonable to say the modern era of Cyclone basketball conventionally started during Orr’s time. The cultural and importance stemming from those days. Hoiberg’s connection to Orr in some ways strengthens that. Offense, suspect defense, small forwards like Elmer Robinson playing all over! Of course, we’re all getting old (nearly 3 decades since Orr!) so eventually it will sneak into a new era, but that generally is hard to delineate in real time.
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In the modern era of basketball though, right? Likely never a better time for a 6’7” frontcourt guy.
I've stated prior our modern era started with JO but I'm teetering back and forth with the entrance of baggy shorts.
Not nearly as big of a deal as the three-point line or the shot clock.
Only affects the AL, too.
Maybe not, but I contend that the DH was just as big of a deal as the mound height change to which I responded. And the DH rule affects every team, every season.Not nearly as big of a deal as the three-point line or the shot clock.
Only affects the AL, too.
My time at ISU overlapped a lot of Barry's. I remember him scoring two primary ways: 1) Long shots "REAALLLY deep" as he kept backing up and firing when they came out to get him. He was the definition of a hot shooter; 2) fast break dunks. I remember Billy Tubbs said something like, "All we saw was the seat of #35's shorts all night" when we beat them in Hilton with lots of transition buckets as Barry could really run the floor.
'Roids and juiced bats and balls.
Moneyball era has encouraged the Three True Outcomes to the point I think it's borderline ruining baseball.
A lot has happened honestly.
These (and the DH rule) are good additions.
Baseball has changed over time... but I still don't think as much as basketball.
I just choose to call Cyclone basketball "modern" starting with Hoiberg because the 2.5 coaching tenures before that were so eminently forgettable.
By the way... never understood it as "Three True Outcomes" only.
Getting hit by a pitch doesn't count...?
Moneyball was all about "a walk is as good as a single" and "he gets on base," well, then why not through drawing contact? I use to do that all the time when I was playing.
It hurt but it was effective.
Modern college basketball began with the expansion of the NCAA tournament to 64 teams in 1985. This was also the beginning of the modern era of ISU basketball. Johnny’s 5th team at ISU comprised of Jeff Hornacek, Barry Stevens and Jeff Grayer helped ISU make the tournament for the first time since the 40’s. The foundation was built at that point.
Actually, baseball has had significant changes to the game in the last decade, mainly from a pitching standpoint. No more complete games, starting the game with relief pitchers for an inning or two, set-up relief specialists along with closers, and 95+mph
flame throwers are now common place.
But then again, Smith doesn't play baseball.
I remember a ton of shots from the deep corner. He seemed to be money from there.
Given that he and probably 75% of the board were not around or old enough to see or remember Stevens play he probably would not have much insight.
But if he can shoot the long ball like Barry, final 4 here we come.
Okay back on topic, when is this guy supposed to decide?
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we always referred to it as Stevens corner after Barry left. Have heard many others call it that also
Decision is supposed to come by week’s end. ISU has a good shot at signing him.Given that he and probably 75% of the board were not around or old enough to see or remember Stevens play he probably would not have much insight.
But if he can shoot the long ball like Barry, final 4 here we come.
Okay back on topic, when is this guy supposed to decide?
Hard to believe in this day and age.
