***Official 2019-2020 Transfer Thread***

TheHelgo

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Anyone have a vibe on Flowers? Announcing tomorrow and we typically have an idea of a lean at least by that point.
 

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Being the staff is usually quiet, maybe it's a good thing nobody know anything of flowers and announcing tomorrow
 

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Anyone have a vibe on Flowers? Announcing tomorrow and we typically have an idea of a lean at least by that point.

None, Flowers even listing ISU in his final 4 was a surprise as it hadn't been reported CSP had been in contact with him. Considering the number of transfers ISU has been connected with the past few days I would expect him to go elsewhere.
He would be a solid pick up but if he is a sit 1 play 1 he really wont move the needle at guard for ISU IMO.
 

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I wonder if people would want Monte Morris transferring in since his points number wasn’t too flashy most of his career even in a fast paced offense. Sometimes there’s more to being a PG than scoring.

He averaged 12-14 his soph and junior year while shooting over 35% from 3 pt range and over 50% from 2 pt range before we even get to the Asst/To ratio.

Buggs averaged 8-9 points his soph and junior year and in his junior had a total FG pct of 36% while in the Big West. Could we use absolutely if Monte Morris was grad transfer he could have started at all but maybe 10 schools after his sophomore year and I think he would have been a starter at any school after his junior year.

Other than that..spot on.
 

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He averaged 12-14 his soph and junior year while shooting over 35% from 3 pt range and over 50% from 2 pt range before we even get to the Asst/To ratio.

Buggs averaged 8-9 points his soph and junior year and in his junior had a total FG pct of 36% while in the Big West. Could we use absolutely if Monte Morris was grad transfer he could have started at all but maybe 10 schools after his sophomore year and I think he would have been a starter at any school after his junior year.

Other than that..spot on.

In a higher volume offense. I said not as good, just similar in the pure PG aspect. Morris wouldn’t have averaged as many points in a slower paced offense either, obviously.
 

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anybody know if this guy is more of a combo or more of a pg???

He's a point god. Huge usage, huge shots, huge assists, good 3P%, good enough turnover percentage considering his usage. He has good size. He rebounds well. He would be my first PG choice right now.
 

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Anyone have a vibe on Flowers? Announcing tomorrow and we typically have an idea of a lean at least by that point.
Nothing educated as far as guesses go, but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of smoke. I would be surprised if he picks us
 

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Point god is just what this team needs. Won't even care about defense if we get one of them.

I'm going to regret this to be sure but compared to Kane at Marshall, his numbers are better as a whole. He rebounds better, he shoots WAY better, he turns it over less, he gets to the line a touch less but he's a far better FT shooter (80+%) and he definitely shoots the 3 better. Kane is interesting because he got substantially better at everything when he came to ISU but without watching Salnave, he looks to be just as good of a prospect to make the jump because he has similar size.
 

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I wonder if people would want Monte Morris transferring in since his points number wasn’t too flashy most of his career even in a fast paced offense. Sometimes there’s more to being a PG than scoring.
Monte averaged 14/7/4 his jr year while quarterbacking a top 25 team most of the year. If he had chosen to grad transfer for his senior year literally every single team would’ve been ringing his phone. This is an awful take.
 
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In a higher volume offense. I said not as good, just similar in the pure PG aspect. Morris wouldn’t have averaged as many points in a slower paced offense either, obviously.

You realize the “slower paced offense” of Hawaii this year compared to Iowa State in 2014-15 equates to two more possessions a game. You said people wouldn’t even what Monte as a grad transfer if he played in an slower paced offense comparing him to Hawaii/Buggs. Monte’s efficiency was an A+ in the Big 12 compared to Buggs Off efficiency of 91.5 rtg by Kenpom last year. It’s like a comparing a starter in the major leagues to a journeyman in Class A ball.
 

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I'm going to regret this to be sure but compared to Kane at Marshall, his numbers are better as a whole. He rebounds better, he shoots WAY better, he turns it over less, he gets to the line a touch less but he's a far better FT shooter (80+%) and he definitely shoots the 3 better. Kane is interesting because he got substantially better at everything when he came to ISU but without watching Salnave, he looks to be just as good of a prospect to make the jump because he has similar size.

I think DeAndre had much better Asst/To numbers compared to this kid from Monmouth. Kane junior year he had 118 TO’s to 213 Assists and shot 41% from the field. Monmouth kid shot 39% from the field although much better from 3 pt range. His junior year he had 84 TO’s to 98 Assists. Monmouth kid had 139 rbs his junior year while Kane had 123 rbs his junior year with three less games.
Better 3 point shooter and maybe a slight edge in rb but not nearly as good of a lead guard.
 

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I think DeAndre had much better Asst/To numbers compared to this kid from Monmouth. Kane junior year he had 118 TO’s to 213 Assists and shot 41% from the field. Monmouth kid shot 39% from the field although much better from 3 pt range. His junior year he had 84 TO’s to 98 Assists. Monmouth kid had 139 rbs his junior year while Kane had 123 rbs his junior year with three less games.
Better 3 point shooter and maybe a slight edge in rb but not nearly as good of a lead guard.

Getting a bit too wrapped up in the numbers. Numbers are nice but in the end only worry about what you can control.

Was Haliburton less of a PG because Nixon couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat?
 

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