George Amundson has been mentioned a few times, don't forget that as a junior he was the starting RB. The starting QB was another good one - Dean Carlson.
Greatest Cyclone Quarterback
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I think we're all underselling Marv Seiler.
The legend I'd heard was that he could throw it the length of the Towers hallway without hitting the ceiling. The other legend (and probably more truthful) was that you never wanted to meet the guy.
David Archer does get underrated. The coaching was terrible when he was the QB. He was also the best NFL QB of the ISU quarterbacks.
In forever??? What is your definition of forever? Since breaking the bowl drought in 2000 the most ISU has gone between bowl games is the 4 year gap which Arnaud which yes Arnaud was part of that team that went to the 2009 Insight bowl and then a 5 year gap between Liberty Bowls in 2012 and 2017 so that is really nothing considering we went 22 years without a bowl game before making a bowl in 2000.
I liked Arnaud but he isn't even in the top 5 conversation and I'm not even sure he was even better than Bret Meyer who doesn't sniff this conversation either. Those 2 QB if you go look up their stats had pretty similar careers actually.
Zeb Noland could throw it over 70 yards.
For only play a year and a half, Purdy's name is listed the most.
That was actually the person I thought was better suited for OP's "Brock Purdy brain in <someone else's> body" analogy. JP has some demons in his head, but dude has a rocket for an arm.
I'm not sure it's Brock. I mean, his best season is 8 wins. Same with Seneca, comparing to Sage.
I agree that peak Seneca in these modern RPO teams would be bananas.
I also agree that Brock might be considered the best by the time that he leaves.
I agree that peak Seneca in these modern RPO teams would be bananas.
I also agree that Brock might be considered the best by the time that he leaves.
I can throw a football over them mountains.
You're supposed to go home because you're ruining everybody's lives and eating all of our steak.
Is this really a fair comparison, though? In that 9-win season Sage didn't beat a single ranked team, and was steamrolled by the two ranked teams they actually played (1 Nebraska 49-27; @15 K-State 56-10).
Seneca Wallace never even won 8 games, so he's not even in this conversation.
Meanwhile, Purdy has a 3-6 record against ranked teams, including a top 10 win against 6 WVU, and 3 of those losses possibly being wins if things play out slightly differently (WSU last year, Iowa and Oklahoma - and perhaps even OSU this year).
The bottom line is you really don't want to get into a win-measuring contest with these QBs. Purdy has played significantly more difficult schedules than either Rosenfels or Wallace, and has had significantly greater success against those schedules than either of the other two as well.
I tend to agree. And especially factoring in all the records that Purdy is getting or nearing.
It's also impossible to compare because of the schedules and the surrounding team. Maybe Sam Richardson would have been a AA if he'd had Sage's line. Or put Sage on some of the later Rhoads's lines
Agree with all except the Wallace difficult schedule part. 2002 was the most difficult schedule in the nation. I don't excuse them for losing to UConn, but they did find 2 wins over an 11 win and 9 win team
What is optimistic about saying Wallace played a difficult schedule in 02? I don't think that's really even debatable.
yes to OU
edit: i see what you mean. "played better vs the competition"
then i agree for sure
