Why No Post Offense
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Zion not being where we needed this year is killing us as much as Jacobsen's regression. Couple that with poor shooting and terrible perimeter defense and you have the unbreakable problem we currently face. THT would have made a monster difference for this team.
Hali, Nixon, Burton, THT, Conditt is a line up that could compete IMO.
Hali, Nixon, Burton, THT, Conditt is a line up that could compete IMO.
I honestly don't care who starts. The problem is MJ and Solo haven't given us any thing, so in my opinion whether they start or come in for George if he were to start, the person who is playing best is going to get the minutes.
Something I liked last night was CSP stuck with what was working with that line up.
I wish someone like Zion, Tre or Terrance would step up because then I think a lineup of 1 of them plus RB, TH, GC and PN would be a pretty good lineup to go small with.
Zion had a nice drive yesterday but instead of attacking the rim, he got in the lane and tried to pass it out, but it was stolen (Grill did this same thing). If Zion could get an attacking mentally I think he would be a lot better.
Well in 48 hours you will get to watch a team running an elite high/low 2 big post offense.. Maybe we can all hope that Prohm scouting KU will wake up and actually try to implement the KU offense.. who am I kidding.
We are running same spread offense we’ve always run accept now we put MJ on the 3pt line..
Literally I could run 3-4 offensive sets that would be far more effective for far less $$
We are running same spread offense we’ve always run accept now we put MJ on the 3pt line..
Literally I could run 3-4 offensive sets that would be far more effective for far less $$
Which makes me wonder if Prohm can develop players or put them in situations that play to their strengths. Prohm told Conditt he should of played him more last year. I think the same could be said about Zion.
Ya Zion has left a lot to be desired and was injured last year. I agree completely about Conditt. I think it's unfair to say Prohm can't develop players. Jacobsen last year (what the hell happened?) Shayok, Nader, Burton, and Monte all showed great improvement under Prohm.
My grandson is a little 4 year old, I think Jacobson might be able to post him up and dunk on him
with the exception of shayok. All the others played hoiball while prohm put on chapstick and tried not to mess things up to bad. Who actually knows how much prohm helped a 5th year senior shayok who was working his butt off for a year hoping to get to the next level.
Regarding the comment about analytics bolded above, exactly. If a pass into the post ended in a basket 100% of the time, analytics would likely suggest more shot attempts from the post. Analytics is what its name implies...analysis of the game. Naturally, analytics will discourage shots from the post if the post players don't have the skills to score frequently when they get the ball.
heitclone is correct. Coaches in the leagues and clubs that kids have to be in to get noticed rarely teach/develop the post position. The post position could be so much more than what it has devolved into.
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No one appreciates Solo more than me, but his talent is anything but endless. He is a solid physical presence, but he isn't tall enough to play the 5 and not quick/skilled enough to play the 4. Just kinda stuck in between.
He has a role: to play some defense, get some rebounds, and take out the trash on offense. And you have to have that guy on your team, but he should be the 6th or 7th guy, not a starter.
As far as Jacobson. Similar situation, imho. Not skilled or physical enough (quickness) to play the 4 and not tall enough to play the 5. Well maybe tall enough, but the staff has him designated as the 4. Last year he avg 11 and 6; he scored double digits 11 times in the non-con (out of 13 games), but only 8 times (out of 21) in Big12 play (incl in KC). Against quality opponents, he just can't consistently succeed at the 4.
I think both of them would have been better off to be developed as pure 5s.
He has a role: to play some defense, get some rebounds, and take out the trash on offense. And you have to have that guy on your team, but he should be the 6th or 7th guy, not a starter.
As far as Jacobson. Similar situation, imho. Not skilled or physical enough (quickness) to play the 4 and not tall enough to play the 5. Well maybe tall enough, but the staff has him designated as the 4. Last year he avg 11 and 6; he scored double digits 11 times in the non-con (out of 13 games), but only 8 times (out of 21) in Big12 play (incl in KC). Against quality opponents, he just can't consistently succeed at the 4.
I think both of them would have been better off to be developed as pure 5s.
Bingo. Jacobson has regressed but he's playing out of position. Unfortunately, the preseason talk of Zion making big strides just hasn't made it's way to the court yet. He'd be the perfect option at the 4 spot when we sit Solo and Jacobson. I like Jackson's effort and defense, but him not making shots is really hurt us. In a perfect world those probably should be Zion's minutes.
Has Jacobsen regressed or is he just not surrounded by as much offensive talent? A lot easier to score when the other team has to scheme around Shayok, THT, and Wigginton. Opens up a lot for role players.
Yeah, I think Tre will start shooting better as time goes on and part of this problem will solve itself. He is right there on almost all of them and has a good stroke. Just a matter of time. Kids a good shooter, just struggling with speed of the college game a bit, which all freshmen do. Problem is by the time he gets it going it probably is too late for this year and for Halliburton's career at ISU.
I am really trying to figure out what is going on with Griffin. Prohm said he improved more than anyone on the team during the offseason, and started off the first four games playing well and averaging about 15 minutes a game, then Prohm starts hardly letting him stay out there. He seems like a much better option to me than Jackson, and the advanced stats back that up. Jackson is the worst player on the team statistically.
I think that is the biggest thing along with playing a different position. Last year when there are 4 offensive weapons surrounding him he was getting a lot of great looks and teams didn't bother helping down on him. I think Jacobson and Conditt should be the main 5s and Young should just sit unless they need a stronger body to try and defend someone.
