This is why Prohm must go........

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Is there anyone that wouldn't have signed up for a split this week facing the #16 team in the country and then a team's Super Bowl? Honest question and I'm fine if the answer is no because we should never expect to lose at Hilton but I just know there were a lot of people predicting 0-2
You’re underplaying how bad it looked last night. We love to make fun of Fran, and rightfully so, but he’s owned Prohm in the series.
 

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Losing last night is one thing - virtually nobody thought it was a guaranteed win - but ISU should never, ever, ever look that outclassed on its own home floor against a Fran McCaffery team.

There's simply no spinning it, and to his credit Prohm didn't try to.

I'm not trying to spin it either. I wouldn't have taken a split either FWIW but I know there were some real negative people going into Sunday's game
 

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Ferentz replaced the greatest coach in Iowa football history
Who by the time he retired had left a shell of a roster to Ferentz.

Essentially the opposite is happening now in basketball. Supposedly* ISU has superior talent. That wasn’t the case for Ferentz’ first seasons.
 

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That’s not exactly an endorsement of Prohm. Mac owned Ferentz simply due to timing... he was essentially gifted the first 4 wins.

Ferentz replaced the greatest coach in Iowa football history

You're both wrong. Fry was probably Iowa's greatest coach but that's a weak argument here given that his program had declined significantly by the time he retired.

That said, Ferentz had two bad years before they were back to being bowl-eligible in 2001. In 2002 ISU was his only loss. That's hardly "gifting" wins to ISU.

Apples and oranges to this situation.
 
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You're both wrong. Fry was probably Iowa's greatest coach but that's a weak argument here given that his program had declined significantly by the time he retired.

That said, Ferentz had two bad years before they were back to being bowl-eligible in 2001. In 2002 ISU was his only loss. That's hardly "gifting" wins to ISU.

Apples and oranges to this situation.

Oh yes sorry, three wins were “gifted.” I mistakenly counted ‘98.

Point stands though that during those early Ferentz years ISU had a distinct talent advantage. I’d include 2001 in that advantage.
 

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Is there anyone that wouldn't have signed up for a split this week facing the #16 team in the country and then a team's Super Bowl? Honest question and I'm fine if the answer is no because we should never expect to lose at Hilton but I just know there were a lot of people predicting 0-2

Lets consider ourselves lucky Seton Hall’s starting big man only played a total of about 2 minutes in that game.
 

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Is there anyone that wouldn't have signed up for a split this week facing the #16 team in the country and then a team's Super Bowl? Honest question and I'm fine if the answer is no because we should never expect to lose at Hilton but I just know there were a lot of people predicting 0-2

No. Not in Hilton. Especially with tournament aspirations.

And it wasn’t just a loss. It was an ass kicking.
 

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We beat Seton Hall after they lost an 18 ppg player in the first 5 min of that game. That’s the kind of luck we will need to beat most teams this year.
 

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Is there anyone that wouldn't have signed up for a split this week facing the #16 team in the country and then a team's Super Bowl? Honest question and I'm fine if the answer is no because we should never expect to lose at Hilton but I just know there were a lot of people predicting 0-2
Right, 1-1 at home with a blowout loss and a win against a weakened top-30 team isn’t unexpected.

This also exemplifies why some aren’t high on Prohm. They’re not surprised by this week, and that’s an issue in itself.

Expected or not, Hopefully this is an abbreviation in play. Missing the tournament would be a bad trend imo.
 

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We beat Seton Hall after they lost an 18 ppg player in the first 5 min of that game. That’s the kind of luck we will need to beat most teams this year.

I think you've said this a couple times now. Where are you getting that he averaged 18 ppg?