2019 Conference allocations for Wrestling Announced

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https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling...ling-qualifier-allocations-2019-championships

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At least there is cushion at 174 for wild cards at 6 instead of 4. Because Ok State is almost a 100% guarantee to steal 1 and Mantanona could easily grab one.

As far as Iowa State is concerned, Colbray is safe no matter what, barring something real freaky.

My guess is we end up with 5 at 165 and Smith wrestles instead of Rogers
 

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Looking at Big 10 at 157. They got 9 allocations and I don't think Panteleo of Michigan got one. He has no RPI because he wrestled 149 early in the season and is under 70 %age at 157.

Name Coaches, RPI (* by who I think got allocations)
*Nolf 1,3
*Berger 2,2
*Deakin 3,1
Panteleo 5, UR
*Young 6,9
*Hayes 7,4
*Bleise 8,5
*Barone 10,16
*Parriott 13,19
*Van Brill 16,27
Danshiek 22, UR
 

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At 1st glance and not verified, looks like
Big 10 at 285 - Jensen and Hermida did not get allocations (looks like Stoll squeezed in at 8-3 for 71%)
Big 10 at 157 - Panteleo did not get an allocation
Big 12 at 174 - Nobody from Ok State
Big 12 at 184 - Nobody from Ok State
 
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Big 10 at 285 - Jensen and Hermida did not get allocations (looks like Stoll squeezed in at 8-3 for 71%)

Man, that's a pretty brutal situation for the heavies at Big Tens. 7 spots for 9 guys ranked in the top 11.

I don't fell bad for them though, the Big Ten coaches always count on there being a lot of marginal spots and assume they'll be one to steal, a situation other conferences can't count on. So if this one time if bites them then boo hoo.
 

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Man, that's a pretty brutal situation for the heavies at Big Tens. 7 spots for 9 guys ranked in the top 11.

I don't fell bad for them though, the Big Ten coaches always count on there being a lot of marginal spots and assume they'll be one to steal, a situation other conferences can't count on. So if this one time if bites them then boo hoo.

Yeah Stoll is going to have to wrestle a few matches at Big 10's to qualify. This might be tough for a guy that is banged up!
 
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Why did they not move the criteria to 31/31/.690 for 174? That would have allowed Mantanona to get one more spot in the Big 12- he was 31/22/.500. No one else on the bubble met that criteria. Is 30/30/.700 the absolute minimum that can be used?

Edit: I found the answer: "The AQ's could be determined by using a sliding scale of the three standards while never going below the base of .700, Top 30 Coach Rank and Top 30 RPI Rank reaching up to the maximum of 29 wrestlers per weight class."
 

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Why did they not move the criteria to 31/31/.690 for 174? That would have allowed Mantanona to get one more spot in the Big 12- he was 31/22/.500. No one else on the bubble met that criteria. Is 30/30/.700 the absolute minimum that can be used?

I thought 30/30/.70 is the cut off. Not sure on the 70% though.
 

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Why did they not move the criteria to 31/31/.690 for 174? That would have allowed Mantanona to get one more spot in the Big 12- he was 31/22/.500. No one else on the bubble met that criteria. Is 30/30/.700 the absolute minimum that can be used?

Edit: I found the answer: "The AQ's could be determined by using a sliding scale of the three standards while never going below the base of .700, Top 30 Coach Rank and Top 30 RPI Rank reaching up to the maximum of 29 wrestlers per weight class."

The AQ's could be determined by using a sliding scale of the three standards while never going below the base of .700, Top 30 Coach Rank and Top 30 RPI Rank reaching up to the maximum of 29 wrestlers per weight class.
 
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I could have sworn they used to go below the cutoff and you'd see guys that were 31 making the cut. I guess either thats new or I made that up.
 

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I could have sworn they used to go below the cutoff and you'd see guys that were 31 making the cut. I guess either thats new or I made that up.

I copied and paste that from criteria rules on NCAA page. But I thought the same thing
 

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The Big Ten situation at HWT makes me a little bit nervous for Gremmel because it wouldn't be the most surpringing thing in the world if he ends up needing an at large and the Big Ten is likely to eat up 2 of the 4 spots right out of the gate. So a couple upsets elsewhere and suddenly he's staying home.
 

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The Big Ten situation at HWT makes me a little bit nervous for Gremmel because it wouldn't be the most surpringing thing in the world if he ends up needing an at large and the Big Ten is likely to eat up 2 of the 4 spots right out of the gate. So a couple upsets elsewhere and suddenly he's staying home.

I agree the 2 from the Big 10, plus Isley can steal a spot. Still think he will be okay unless some higher allocations start defaulting out before they get an allocation.

Seedings at Big 12 could play a factor in allocations. I could see some guys that never received an allocation being seeded higher than allocated wrestlers.
 

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Man, that's a pretty brutal situation for the heavies at Big Tens. 7 spots for 9 guys ranked in the top 11.

I don't fell bad for them though, the Big Ten coaches always count on there being a lot of marginal spots and assume they'll be one to steal, a situation other conferences can't count on. So if this one time if bites them then boo hoo.

It isn't likely to bite the Big 10 guys. A guy ranked in the top 11 is going to make the tournament. Period. All it means is that guys in other conferences better get it done at their tourney because the B1G is taking at least 2 of the 4 spots available at HWT, right out of the box.

Yeah Stoll is going to have to wrestle a few matches at Big 10's to qualify. This might be tough for a guy that is banged up!

I think he's wrestled every dual for 2 months now so it doesn't seem likely that this will be a problem.

The Big Ten situation at HWT makes me a little bit nervous for Gremmel because it wouldn't be the most surpringing thing in the world if he ends up needing an at large and the Big Ten is likely to eat up 2 of the 4 spots right out of the gate. So a couple upsets elsewhere and suddenly he's staying home.

There you go.
 

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It isn't likely to bite the Big 10 guys. A guy ranked in the top 11 is going to make the tournament. Period. All it means is that guys in other conferences better get it done at their tourney because the B1G is taking at least 2 of the 4 spots available at HWT, right out of the box.
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Coaches Panel ranking is only 15% of the at-large criteria. Stoll will still have no RPI after Big Tens and if he doesn't place in the top 7 that means he's also lost his 0.700 win percentage... he would probably get in as an at large but it is hardly a sure thing, it would depend on what happens elsewhere. It's more likely that he'll place 6th or 7th and knock somebody who does have a better resume out in to the at large pool.
 

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Hell, if Stoll misses the podium at Big Tens, Jennings takes 8th or lower, and Gremmel takes 7th or lower at Big 12s then Stoll won't even be eligible for an at large. And while all three of those things happening isn't super likely it wouldn't be super surprising to see that happen.