Bill Snyder finally retiring

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Klieman will coach NDSU through the playoffs. Wonder if Mess comes with him.
 

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I hope he makes the mistake of bringing nearly zero staff along for the ride. Coaches seem to do best when they bring a large part of their staff with them.

He's taking his DC Matt Entz, Messingham is going and probably NDSUs strength coach who is the one guy that has been there the entire NDSU run and is really well thought of.
 

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Mess is the new KSU OC?!?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I lol at that, but without looking at the other staff, Mess may actually have more experience recruiting for a P5 program than anyone else. He might not have been GOOD at it (I honestly don’t know, I’m not sure which players he brought here) but he does have the experience, which has some form of value, I’m sure.
 

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I lol at that, but without looking at the other staff, Mess may actually have more experience recruiting for a P5 program than anyone else. He might not have been GOOD at it (I honestly don’t know, I’m not sure which players he brought here) but he does have the experience, which has some form of value, I’m sure.
Mess was bad at it. Those plays in the pistol formation....brutal.
 

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Mess was bad at it. Those plays in the pistol formation....brutal.

He's totally different at NDSU. They're about a 50/50 split under center/shot gun. True pro-style. Pound the run and then throw over the top.

OCs take a lot of blame but a lot of times it's head coaches more or less telling the OC to run the HCs system.
 

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He's taking his DC Matt Entz, Messingham is going and probably NDSUs strength coach who is the one guy that has been there the entire NDSU run and is really well thought of.

SO WRONG

Entz From Iowa is New NDSU coach.

NDSU strength coach staying.

We are trying to push Messingham out, but idiots at Kstate have an OC locked into 2021! They could make mess QB or Asst Coach down there.

OL coach staying at NDSU too, we will be just fine. Friday Night 7pm ESPN 2 come watch!
 

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lakesbison, why don't you venture over to k-statefans.com and join into the fun? I do not necessarily agree with your views but would love to have you there for the sheer entertainment value of the way that you are "the straw that stirs the drink."
 
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SO WRONG

Entz From Iowa is New NDSU coach.

NDSU strength coach staying.

We are trying to push Messingham out, but idiots at Kstate have an OC locked into 2021! They could make mess QB or Asst Coach down there.

OL coach staying at NDSU too, we will be just fine. Friday Night 7pm ESPN 2 come watch!

You think K-State should hire Messingham as their new OC? LMAO!!!!!!
 

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Hey Lakes, NDSU going to let coach Klieman go now that Entz has been named head coach, or does he have to stay in Fargo for the playoffs final if they win tonight v. the Jacks?

And BTW, if coach didn't want the current staff members, he was free to let them go, any or all. There are no golden handcuffs or retainer requirements in spite of what Littrell's camp said to the contrary. See 5:40 mark. The only announcement so far is that he's keeping the recruiting coordinator.

 
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Hey Lakes, NDSU going to let coach Klieman go now that Entz has been named head coach, or does he have to stay in Fargo for the playoffs final if they win tonight v. the Jacks?

And BTW, if coach didn't want the current staff members, he was free to let them go, any or all. There are no golden handcuffs or retainer requirements in spite of what Littrell's camp said to the contrary.

You seem to be the only one saying that Kansas State is not requiring their new coach to keep some of the staff.
 

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Hey Lakes, NDSU going to let coach Klieman go now that Entz has been named head coach, or does he have to stay in Fargo for the playoffs final if they win tonight v. the Jacks?

And BTW, if coach didn't want the current staff members, he was free to let them go, any or all. There are no golden handcuffs or retainer requirements in spite of what Littrell's camp said to the contrary. See 5:40 mark.




Do you think a new coach would ever admit to having to keep assistants? No idea if he did,but that would instill 0 confidence in the staff.
 

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If you watched the video, the AD said there was no such requirement. Now, you can say he's a liar if you choose. But I take him for his word. The reality is that there are some fine assistants on Snyder's staff and several will be retained for that reason.
 

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If you watched the video, the AD said there was no such requirement. Now, you can say he's a liar if you choose. But I take him for his word. The reality is that there are some fine assistants on Snyder's staff and several will be retained for that reason.
If Sean is retained we will know for certain that it is ********.
 

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If there could be anything as bad as having the previous head coach still in the AD looking over your shoulder it would be having one of his sons still on the football coaching staff.
 

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I hope to all hell that Sean is retained... what a side show this would be.

Imagine what happens when Klieman does something Bill does not approve of.
 
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