Monte mentioned in federal documents
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Would you say the same thing about a doctor? If a high schooler is good enough to be a doctor, should they be able to perform surgery? No point in forcing them to get a medical degree?
I look at it that way. The NBA, as a business, believes that their employees must be a year out of high school before they can hire them.
I checked out her twitter and she is saying she saw the legal documents the article is based off of and she is referring to the meal being payed for, which would be an NCAA violation. In other words it's nothing new and there is nothing to see here.
Also can we talk about how ****** this is for the players. Let’s assume montes Mom is telling the truth (and we have no reason not to believe her), agents are trolling these players all of the time. No wonder some of them cave.
And, has been stated earlier in this thread, the player can simply donate the equivalent $'s back to a charity to clear their name.
We already know the NCAA has serious structural and integrity problems. Unfortunately their faults result in good kids like Monte being tossed under the bus by low-life media looking for hits.
I don’t care about fairness, but the market is saying these players should receive more benefit. If enough major programs are in the cross-hairs the NCAA will be looking for fall guys, as they cannot risk the meat of the NCAA leaving to start a new association that has a salary/benefit cap.
Ken Miller had some national guy from SB nation on, and he didn't seem to think the Monte news was anything fans should be too concerned about
Couple questions for those 'more' in the know:
- This article appears to be FBI. Unless the NCAA piggy backs off the FBI investigation to levy penalties, it appears the worst done so far is tax evasion. Is this a correct assumption?
- I'm curious about the rule which 'allows' a student to test the waters of the NBA yet return to college if they opt not to pursue that. During 'that' period, are NCAA rules explicitly defined?
- This article appears to be FBI. Unless the NCAA piggy backs off the FBI investigation to levy penalties, it appears the worst done so far is tax evasion. Is this a correct assumption?
- I'm curious about the rule which 'allows' a student to test the waters of the NBA yet return to college if they opt not to pursue that. During 'that' period, are NCAA rules explicitly defined?
Taking a step back for a moment, I can't get over the utter hilarity of this. An adult purchases breakfast for another adult and all of the sudden it's as though the integrity of our basketball program is at stake. It's national news.
Breakfast. A grand slam breakfast from Dennys. Maybe if he's lucky he got a nice buffet with a little omelet station. We aren't talking about hooker and blow here. We aren't talking about a fancy steak dinner. This isn't exactly "He Got Game". We are talking about breakfast.
An adult buys (or doesn't buy, hell who knows) another adult breakfast and it's national news.
Breakfast. A grand slam breakfast from Dennys. Maybe if he's lucky he got a nice buffet with a little omelet station. We aren't talking about hooker and blow here. We aren't talking about a fancy steak dinner. This isn't exactly "He Got Game". We are talking about breakfast.
An adult buys (or doesn't buy, hell who knows) another adult breakfast and it's national news.
In my best Allen Iverson voice: "We ain't talkin' 'bout no hookers. We talkin' 'bout breakfast!"
Tax evasion is the easiest charge to prove in court. Basically, if they can prove a payment was made it would have to be shown as income on one party's return, and probably a 1099 filed on the other party return if over $600, making it a slam dunk to prosecute. The penalties for evasion are up to 5 years in jail per incident, which as felonies go, make it pretty attractive to charge over other things harder to prove. It's low hanging fruit, with heavy penalties. I bet prosecutors love that, since it gives them leverage against minor players to make deals that get them bigger fish.
But I got most of what I know about this from watching Kevin Costner in the Untouchables, so take it for what it's worth.
So if a prep student was a phenom and was able to pass college classes and MCAT by the time he or she was 17 but wasn't allowed to go to Med school until they were 19 you would deny them?
One year out of High School is an random age rule. There are already many cases (Lebron, Kobe, McGrady) were HS players have entered the league out of HS and preformed at a "doctorate" level.
The NBA wants the players to play a year in college because it is easier to get scouts to see them against better competition than attending High School events and to make them a National Name without investing and thing thus improving fan interest. It has nothing to do with if the kid is physically ready to play.
Ben Simmons playing at LSU didn't help him or improve his stock as he would have went #1 out of HS and did a year later. Why should he have to waste a year of earnings and risk a career injury if not for a random rule?
