Conference Prediction for ISU

That team had a better backcourt and no worse of a front court. Imo that team was superior on offense. We give good effort on defense this year, but to rely on winning via good defense over a Big 12 schedule requires more than effort. We've been awfully close to being .500 in Big 12 several times in the past 5 years, with better teams. Even a small regression likely results in being a few games under.

Your optimism is noble, but also an extreme extrapolation of distorted data.

That team was significantly worse offensively and incredibly worse defensively. We were #77 in AdjO and #103 in AdjD that year. Your lack of knowledge is noble though
 
Losing at home against Baylor, WVU, and KU seems pretty likely to me to go on top of the Cincy loss. People seem to forget we lost 4 or more home games every year from 2005-06 to 2010-2011. This years team is more comparable to those teams than the last 5.

This is so wrong
 
I'm surprised you're so down on this team. You don't seem like the sky is falling type.
I'm not the type. I just think teams with size will have their way and if I'm wrong it's...well, 20 bucks. I really have zero faith in Holden or Burton. I think Burton is just going to be enigmatic and we'll always wonder why he doesn't put it together. Being wrong about this will be a joy. I figure with KU, Baylor, and Cincy it's already at 3 losses. KU lost a big so there's a positive development.
 
I'm not the type. I just think teams with size will have their way and if I'm wrong it's...well, 20 bucks. I really have zero faith in Holden or Burton. I think Burton is just going to be enigmatic and we'll always wonder why he doesn't put it together. Being wrong about this will be a joy. I figure with KU, Baylor, and Cincy it's already at 3 losses. KU lost a big so there's a positive development.

Gonzaga's size didn't hurt us. KU doesn't have size. I'd be surprised if we lost 3 games at home actually and I won't even take your money when I win. You know what you're talking about in basketball, I just thought you would realize this is a much improved defensive team
 
I'm not the type. I just think teams with size will have their way and if I'm wrong it's...well, 20 bucks. I really have zero faith in Holden or Burton. I think Burton is just going to be enigmatic and we'll always wonder why he doesn't put it together. Being wrong about this will be a joy. I figure with KU, Baylor, and Cincy it's already at 3 losses. KU lost a big so there's a positive development.

Also Holden is not good, actually decent defensively but he's not going to play much moving forward IMO. It's going to be Young and Bowie getting more minutes and Bowie is a really good rebounder. Young needs to improve defensively quickly though
 
vs Tech - W (5-10 points)
@ Baylor - L
vs Texas - W
@ Okie St. - L
@ TCU - W
vs Kansas - L
@ Oklahoma - L
vs Kansas St. - W
vs West Virginia - W (best win of the year)
@ Kansas - L
@ Texas - L
vs Oklahoma - W
@ Kansas St. - W
vs. TCU - W
@ Tech - L
vs. Baylor - L
vs. Okie St. - W
@ West Virginia - L

9-9
 
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Re: advanced stats, the problem we are going to run into is that even though the common knowledge says that the Big 12 is worse this year than last, the numbers aren't bearing that out. The Big 12 is currently the #1 conference in kenpom, with 8/10 teams in the top 38 and every team in the top 69. So all of a sudden, Iowa State's #30 ranking isn't that impressive because there are five Big 12 teams basically lumped together at #27-#38, with three teams clearly above that.

edit: which leads to current kenpom projection of 17-13 (8-10)
 
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Re: advanced stats, the problem we are going to run into is that even though the common knowledge says that the Big 12 is worse this year than last, the numbers aren't bearing that out. The Big 12 is currently the #1 conference in kenpom, with 8/10 teams in the top 38 and every team in the top 69. So all of a sudden, Iowa State's #30 ranking isn't that impressive because there are five Big 12 teams basically lumped together at #27-#38, with three teams clearly above that.

edit: which leads to current kenpom projection of 17-13 (8-10)
Yep
 
This should be a good thread to look back on later in the season. For the record, I think we'll end up with at least 4 losses at Hilton this season.

Why? This is the best defensive team we've had in quite some time and isn't nearly as troubled offensively and people are making them out to be. It's not as good as it has been at all but defensively were much improved
 
Hilton losses, for reference ... I think I got 'em all.
2008-09
South Dakota State
Kansas
Oklahoma
Missouri
KSU
2009-10
UNI
Texas
Kansas
KSU
Oklahoma State
Texas A&M
Missouri
2010-11
Cal
KU
Texas Tech
OU
KSU
2011-12
UNI
Missouri
2012-13
Kansas
2013-14
Kansas
2014-15
Baylor
2015-16
Baylor
West Virginia
 
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Hilton losses, for reference ... I think I got 'em all.
2008-09
South Dakota State
Kansas
Oklahoma
Missouri
KSU
2009-10
UNI
Texas
Kansas
KSU
Oklahoma State
Texas A&M
Missouri
2010-11
Cal
KU
Texas Tech
OU
KSU
2011-12
UNI
Missouri
2012-13
Kansas
2013-14
Kansas
2014-15
Baylor
2015-16
Baylor
West Virginia

Lol to people predicting 4 losses in Hilton this year.