If they DON'T expand at this point... then that is the double-tap shot for the Big12. It would be a huge PR disaster - "don't have a clue", "even G5 don't want in", "no future", etc etc. NO ONE would want in at that point.
***Official Big 12 Expansion Thread '16***
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I was all for BYU as my #1, despite reservations about their religion.
Then I learned more about how crazypants their honor code is, and I can definitely say I hope they don't make it in without some radical changes.
As it stands now, the honor code is unconscionable for how it affects victims of sexual assault.
http://www.sltrib.com/home/3817597-155/sexual-assault-victims-say-abusers-wield
Then I learned more about how crazypants their honor code is, and I can definitely say I hope they don't make it in without some radical changes.
As it stands now, the honor code is unconscionable for how it affects victims of sexual assault.
http://www.sltrib.com/home/3817597-155/sexual-assault-victims-say-abusers-wield
Since we are all just throwing crap at wall for expansion how about this?
17 schools mentioned but total count is 16 - ACC delays league schedule? Cause ND wants in to new B12 and the TV jack! Might as well as some of the other fantasy floated around. No merger, no 64 superconference, no breakaway by the top 32 and subdivision relegation. Click bait pipe dreams. BYU and Cincy/Hou and we go to 12.
17 schools mentioned but total count is 16 - ACC delays league schedule? Cause ND wants in to new B12 and the TV jack! Might as well as some of the other fantasy floated around. No merger, no 64 superconference, no breakaway by the top 32 and subdivision relegation. Click bait pipe dreams. BYU and Cincy/Hou and we go to 12.
Maybe, but be prepared that the PAC could feign "interest" to string the Big 12 along and when they ultimately say "no" the Big 12 ends up looking worse.
Among the 17 schools that will make their presentations to the Big 12 are Cincinnati, Houston, BYU, South Florida, UCF, UConn, Memphis, Colorado State, Boise State, Tulane, Temple, East Carolina, SMU, New Mexico, Northern Illinois and San Diego State sources said.
They added San Diego State now. Still no Arizona schools...must be a misprint somewhere
They added San Diego State now. Still no Arizona schools...must be a misprint somewhere
Among the 17 schools that will make their presentations to the Big 12 are Cincinnati, Houston, BYU, South Florida, UCF, UConn, Memphis, Colorado State, Boise State, Tulane, Temple, East Carolina, SMU, New Mexico, Northern Illinois and San Diego State sources said.
They added San Diego State now. Still no Arizona schools...must be a misprint somewhere
That's because it will be the Big 12 making their presentation to the Arizona schools.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/8/12/12451440/big-12-expansion-candidates-realignment More on the 17 schools
Article states "McMurphy’s got sources saying it’s "becoming less and less likely" that the Big 12 expands by four"... that can only mean one thing...We're adding 6 or more! :jimladv2.0:
Article states "McMurphy’s got sources saying it’s "becoming less and less likely" that the Big 12 expands by four"... that can only mean one thing...We're adding 6 or more! :jimladv2.0:
Among the 17 schools that will make their presentations to the Big 12 are Cincinnati, Houston, BYU, South Florida, UCF, UConn, Memphis, Colorado State, Boise State, Tulane, Temple, East Carolina, SMU, New Mexico, Northern Illinois and San Diego State sources said.
They added San Diego State now. Still no Arizona schools...must be a misprint somewhere
No P5 school would do some presentation for the Big 12 school.
Grab bag of related articles:
Former Houston coach Dana Dimel thinks Cougars would be bad for Big 12
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article94437662.html
Article on Scott Frost and UCF
http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...-surge/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Dan Patrick (Not the radio host) thinks SMU should be included too:
http://www.danpatrick.org/lt-governor-patrick-statement-on-big-12-expansion/
Scott D. Pierce: ESPN, Fox admit manipulating the Big 12
Former Houston coach Dana Dimel thinks Cougars would be bad for Big 12
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article94437662.html
Article on Scott Frost and UCF
http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...-surge/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Dan Patrick (Not the radio host) thinks SMU should be included too:
http://www.danpatrick.org/lt-governor-patrick-statement-on-big-12-expansion/
Scott D. Pierce: ESPN, Fox admit manipulating the Big 12
I wonder how much fuel there is in ESPN wanting to offload some of its debt. It's been reported that ESPN is bringing down Disney's profit margins. Off-loading debt would be a win-win to get ESPN back on track. Either that or Disney wholesells ESPN. This will be interesting to watch and speculate over.
Wasn't all this research into potential expansion candidates done months ago by the research firm that the Big 12 hired to investigate the feasibility of expansion? This 17-team video conference interview thing seems to me like a big ruse. I feel sad for all those schools, because I think they are just wasting a bunch of money on this. IMO, if there is going to be expansion, there is already a short list (or maybe even a final list), an the rest is just smoke and mirrors.
I still feel that all of the G5 schools are a waste of time, and are just delaying the inevitable breakup in 2025. I don't really care for Berry Trammel, but he is at least somewhat connected, and he continues to claim that OU wants out...or maybe he is just feeding diversionary propaganda.
IMO, something like Arizona, ASU, and CU are probably what is needed to entice OU to stay. There was an article linked here several months ago stating that Boren fancies himself as an intellect, and fancies the Big Ten and Pac-12 because those leagues are loaded with prestigious academic schools (AAU types). Arizona and Colorado are AAU schools, so maybe getting a couple of those back in the Big 12 might satiate his intellectual desires.
I still feel that all of the G5 schools are a waste of time, and are just delaying the inevitable breakup in 2025. I don't really care for Berry Trammel, but he is at least somewhat connected, and he continues to claim that OU wants out...or maybe he is just feeding diversionary propaganda.
IMO, something like Arizona, ASU, and CU are probably what is needed to entice OU to stay. There was an article linked here several months ago stating that Boren fancies himself as an intellect, and fancies the Big Ten and Pac-12 because those leagues are loaded with prestigious academic schools (AAU types). Arizona and Colorado are AAU schools, so maybe getting a couple of those back in the Big 12 might satiate his intellectual desires.
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I know BYU is working with the title IX office on a resolution to this.
HTTPS://news.byu.edu/news/update-title-IX-study
Also, the salt lake tribune will do whatever/whenever it can to put BYU and/or Mormons in a bad light. We take their reporting with a grain of salt around here
My favorite from that: "UConn: The Huskies can send a slice of New York pizza that somebody drove for an hour back to Storrs, then mailed."
There are times I wonder if Bowlsby is the right man for this job. If he has his eye on the Big 10 job after Delaney, I could see him going with the safe bet in all of this. Not ruffle any feathers. I think we need more of a riverboat gambler willing to shake things up, that will go after the Big Dogs. Someone not afraid to embellish the Big 12 and swing for the fences. Even if it means calling out OU or UT. I just don't see that in Bob.
Im beginning to just say **** it anymore with this ******** of a conference. How can we bribe our way into the Big Ten? Anyone?
demoncore1031
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It feels like we are really covering up our tracks after the ACC got their **** together.
