Fred let Baylor go on a 12-2 run? Good lord, get a grip.
One top-20 team beat another. It happens. It easily could happen again as we have some deficiencies like all but a few teams.
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Fred let Baylor go on a 12-2 run? Good lord, get a grip.
One top-20 team beat another. It happens. It easily could happen again as we have some deficiencies like all but a few teams.
I'm not upset at losing to Baylor. I'm upset that ISU was lost on defense and Fred did nothing to fix it into it was too late. ISU had all the momentum, and as it was slowly dying, Fred just stood back and let it happen.
Look, I get it, Hoiberg is god. However, he is not immune from criticism.
Saying Fred let Baylor go on a 12-2 run is not criticism, it is stupidity.
Baylor is the better team, there is only so much that can be done.
It's not stupidity. The fact that the defense was out of place and allowed for not one, not two, not three, but four open threes without calling a timeout to make any sort of adjustment is letting the other team have their way.
Actually it's FACT. When you have 3 timeouts late in the game and consciously bag them in the midst of an opponent run you ARE letting it happen. It's the very definition of letting it happen.
At the end of the game, last minute and a half, why weren't we fouling? I didn't get that. Just a terrible night for Fred, and I'm sure he'd be the first one to admit it.
hindsight is 20/20, maybe he was trusting his guys would stay together and counter their run being it was at home. Don't think anyone saw the last 6 min playing out how they did, Baylor went out of their mind, we didn't have the urgency to respond soon enough.
That is exactly what Fred was doing. Sometimes it works sometimes it does not. However, I would argue that tonight was one of the worst "lack of calling a timeout" moment that Fred has had. I was mad when he didn't try to stop it after the second three, and shocked when he didn't after the third.
And no one can disagree with your criticism without you going into martyr mode?
There are plenty of things to criticize, all I'm saying is time out usage shouldn't be one of them.
I'll respectfully disagree tonight. We made the same defensive mistakes on 4 straight threes. A time out should of been called to adjust and fix the mistakes.
Also, martyr? Where am I trying to gain any sympathy here?
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We are a pace based team. We need the game to flow to have a chance. Baylor is not and can rely on out-talenting us in the halfcourt.
It's got nothing to do with me or you. There are opinions, facts, and fallacies. It's all about the statement and it's validity, not about who said it. I was disappointed with the outcome, but infinitely more irritated with how it happened. You should be too.
Go back and watch the last 5 minutes of just about ANY game we've had the lead in. You'll find missed TO opportunities, poor substitutions, and a rash of bad decision making. The latter is is about a 50/50 split between Fred and the players but the rest is on him.
When you are on the bench in a tightly contested conference game (with title implications) you just can't idly sit by and watch your team implode with numerous miscues. That's the reason you're on the bench in the first place.
I also make no illusions of knowing how to recruit (Fred's done an amazing job), prepare/practice (Fred's done a good job), and coach 18-23 year olds. But I am pretty damn sure I could do a much better job of utilizing subs and managing timeouts than he does. In that regard he's not very good. At this point I don't even see how that's debatable.
The run that killed us happened when Morris and McKay were on the bench. If you noticed all our shots were 1 and done (no McKay to rebound) and we took too many quick bad shots (no Morris to use clock to find the best option).
Can we just pin the blame on Charlie Henry? What proof do we have that he knows how to coach/manage a basketball team? Having a young 20-somethings assistant coach with no experience filling in the shoes of a 50 something year old man with HEAD coaching experience is the ultimate differentiating factor between this seasons team and last. I don't know Henry on a personal level, I have no vendetta against him or anything like that, I just think that part of the blame lies there. When can we start declaring him basketball version of Courtney Messingham and blame Fred for staying in bed with his buddies?
