Greenberg Tweet on McKay
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I agree. Some people get extra defensive when they take words out of context or may not understand what Seth could potentially mean. If 1 negative thing is said - panties in a bunch. Some people need to lay off twitter when it comes to that stuff.
Rankings - another area where cyclone fans continue to gripe and moan about where we stand. Just don't understand that rankings don't mean squat for seeds. You're going to have biased west coast/east coast writers who simply do not watch all the games and are basing things off of reputation or past success. I see the same twitter handles each and every time.
So clearly one is to shut their mouth as they are rolling on the ground. Got it.
It's not necessarily negative, but it has always been used to define players that do one or two things well and aren't asked to do much else. McKay scores, rebounds on both ends, is a very good on-ball defender, great help defender, and is getting good at recognizing and passing out of double teams. McKay is a versatile player.
Conversely, Georges defends poorly, rebounds poorly for his position, is a mediocre 3 pt shooter. He is a great scorer in the paint, and can be a good facitator, but if A:T ratio is an indicator, he's not so good at that. Yet it would be ridiculous to call Niang a role player.
Its just annoying to me because talking heads rarely say anything about college players that isn't overwhelmingly positive. When they do, they are usually sure. What he said was not bashing McKay, but he was flat out wrong. If McKay is a role player by Seth's expanded definition of what's role player is,then so is every center in college and the NBA that I can think of not named Gasol.
Seth Greenberg @SethOnHoops 2h2 hours ago J McKay is a very good player and ISU is a great team but I don't hear the crazy Cyclone fans killing me today. Short memory. #roleplayer
Seth Greenberg @SethOnHoops 1h1 hour ago Amazing you can say a team is great , you like a player and a fans still lose their minds. Relax.
I think he'd be best served letting this one rest rather than trying to get the last word. Sure, he didn't score today, but 3pts, 9rebs, 3 blocks is still better than 'role player' numbers. I think the guy means it as a compliment, but it doesn't really come off that way.
Yeah those do sound a lot like role player numbers. Outside of Niang and Morris, everyone else could be classified as a role player. Naz is the shooter, McKay is put backs, rebounds and blocks, Hogue is a glue guy, BDJ is now the scorer off the bench, Nader is the energy guy. Greenberg doesn't mean it in a negative way, McKay is obviously a very good player but he's not the type of big where we go to him when need a hoop or clear out for him. He's a role player on a top ten team, teams like us have really good role players.
McKay is a role player. We are a team of role players, sans Georges on offense. It can make us very hard to beat when we are playing fast and sharing the ball. It can also mean we struggle with teams that can rough up Georges and stop our ball movement.
Jameel McKay will not have an instant impact for ISU. Limited offensive skills could actually hurt Cyclone spacing. More of a role player.
Seth GreenbergI think we all can agree -- like CyJack13 states -- McKay IS a role player.
But the very least Greenberg could do is admit he was wrong on two things in his original tweet. One, McKay hasn't "hurt the team's spacing" on offense, and two, McKay has made an "instant impact" for Iowa State. No harm in admitting when you are wrong, Mr. Greenberg. Those "crazy" ISU fans will forgive you.
