The person I talked to didn't debate any of it. He's been going to games for 35 years and said this is the most turnover at all levels he can remember. He thought one of the factors for Bohl's leaving was the turnover coming this season.
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I absolutely believe we win by at least two touchdowns, I said 17-20 points so I think he is low.
I realize your source didn't debate any of it, it's the 3-4 NDSU fans we have on here that seem to debate it quite a bit. (i.e. see the posts immediately following your original comment)
Oh I know what you meant. Got more out of a 20 minute conversation about the game with him than any of the Bison fans on here!
Thanks, its unfortunate that a few can destroy it for so many. Trust me about this though, 99.5% of NDSU fans are fantastic people who would give you the shirts off their backs literally.
We talk about the starters so much because your fans keep asking how many we have returning, like the first quote questioning do we actually have 7 returning starters on D? Yes. So the conversation is driven by your fanbase, but I will admit the answers from Bison fans haven't been consistent, which is disappointing since it is a simple question.
So you are totally ok with him giving you false information, but are not ok with (most) Bison fans on here who present facts? So are you like Cyclone lakes, only information is true if it benefits your side?
I think part of the problem is people skewing what a returning starter is. Just because someone made spot starts due to injuries or suspensions doesn't make them a returning starter.
What I have tried to say is there are 7 returning starters from last season. There are 2 on the DL that will be NEW full time starters this season but they have started in the past and have lots of experience. If that confused a few or I didn't say it properly and caused some confusion that for that I apologize. Since I got on here to post, I have only tried to help your fans understand who we have at what positions. What NDSU wants to do and what would need to happen to make it possible for them to win. I wish Lakes would help us all out and calm down a lot though.
False? I may have misheard him on the TE. Honestly I lost count of the names and players that graduated and who had seen some playing time, it is really insane how confident you guys are with the team taking a complete 180 from players to coaches. He is a huge fan but knows this year has a ton of unknowns. But I guess you guys just think winning 3 FCS titles entitles you to something.
The problem is someone, we all know who, will come in and call you a hater and say you have more returning starters than that.
I think the discussion we should be having about your secondary is more along the lines of your Tampa 2 vs a 3 wide set with a very good pass catching TE. If you are going to have 2 deep safeties, and a MLB roaming the middle zone that means your other two LBs will have to cover a slot receiver (West, Lazard, or Daley) and Bibbs. That leaves 6 guys to block 4 and hopefully all day to throw.
You are calling us insanely confident, but yet most of us are predicting low scoring, 3 point Bison wins. You are predicting a 17 point Iowa State win, from a team that has just as many question marks, and did not do nearly as well as us last year. Yeah, we are the insanely confident ones. The other people on here are much more realistic than you are, but that's probably because they don't have UNI in their title.
If your base offense is more of a 3 wide receiver set PLUS Bibbs, you will be seeing a lot less of Esley Thorton, our SLB, and more of a nickel DB - Board, Colvin, or Dempsey. A couple of the teams we played in the playoffs last year were spread offenses, with 3 and 4 wr sets, and we would just use our fastest two LB's on the field plus a nickel, while our run stopper, who isn't as good in coverage, didn't play as much. If we are counting on Thorton to be covering a WR or your TE, we are in trouble. I don't think that's how this will play out though. Our other two LB's we start- Beck and Littlejohn, are undersized but excel in pass coverage.
I think our base offense will be a 3 wide set this year. I think Mangino will use it similar to Fred using Georges, if you bring on the nickel we will run the ball if Thorton stays on the field we will throw. Don't forget though in a true Tampa 2 your MLB is running a middle middle zone. If he has to drop deeper into coverage that will open a lot of crossing routes and slipping backs out of the backfield.
Travis Beck is an OLB beast. He is a tough SOB from the farm and he will match up with bibbs. He can actually fly too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi2A5apBHC8
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