NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones
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Ndsu has done well of late, BUT they do not have the grueling schedule that we have. They play D1 power conference teams AT the beginning of the season. Play the big boys half way through the season then talk cause anything and I mean anything can happen in game one on both sides of the ball. Ask West Virginia and TCU what happens when you play a tough schedule week in and week out vs. weak *** schedule.
Umm... What? Dude Vegas objectively evaluates these games for a living, and they didn't set the line as Bison favored because they believe the Bison are returning the same team as last year, and/or will win on past experiences beating FBS teams. Objective people that make money on this crap think the Bison are a better team, and you are saying Iowa State is better in 20 out of 22 starting positions? I understand schemes, experiences, etc come into play as well, but don't tell me Iowa state has 20 out of 22 starters that are better. I can't tell if you are being serious or not. I would say a majority of your offense would start over our players, but a majority of our defense would start over your players.
For example, 3 people in our secondary would start for you, that is a fact. Our two returning safeties who have both started since they were freshman and have won 3 national championships, plus our corner who is returning who played started last year and played better than the other corner currently on an NFL roster. Yes, we do have another defensive back (shepard) that is on the roster of an NFL team, but he couldn't start over the three returning secondary players we have. He got more playing time when our MLB tore his ACL last year, so he could show more what he could do, but he did not start. But yet is good enough to currently still be with the Redskins. I have no idea who is going to win this game, and I am not saying the Bison are better, I am just saying 20 out of 22 starters is false. Probably closer to even.
Hey- they snagged that walk-on dude from Nebraska. Frazier Crane or something. He even scored a touchdown. Watch yoself.
I forgot! My bad! Must be good since he came from the Huskers. and even scored a touchdown! impressive...
Are you saying NDSU, or any non BCS school, can't recruit nor ever gets BCS caliber players?
Check out the NFL draft last year : 19 FCS players drafted, and others with free agent signing. It's not crazy to think with NDSU's recruiting and past success some of these players, whether drafted in the NFL or not, are BCS caliber and end up at NDSU for a variety of reasons --- overlooked, BCS school X no scholarships left, late bloomer, etc. The Minnesota's, Wisconsin's, and Iowa State's of the world only have so many scholarships to give out, they are far from 100 % accurate on the scholarships they do give out, and there are a lot of talented players in those states that fall through the cracks, that don't get offers from BCS, wind up at NDSU, and end up being studs.
While the facility itself may not be as fancy as some others, the actual equipment is second to none. I have yet to see another college football facility with mono racks and hydraulic lifts.
Wow. Transfers up almost never happen because the players have to sit out a year.
Based on ISU's sparkling 21-23-1 record against the spread the last four years?
Isn't that called redshirting? not to mention if they are that good then don't you want more attention at a high end BCS school then some FCS school? Is there something weird about that?
Rhoads has won most of his game at Iowa State as an underdog, it doesnt matter. You realize this line was set to get people to bet on ISU right?
I agree at safety, so that makes 3 on defense. No way at corner, Sam Richardson (the cornerback) has played in every game the last two years and started 6 games last season. Word on him is he has gotten even better in the offseason and he was solid already. And no reason to discuss Tribune.
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Not taking anything away from ndsu, but how would they do with our schedule? They have talent and experience, but how would they do in a power conference?
Yes, but most players that have proven they are one of the best players in their conference and/or nation at their level are not freshman and dont want to redshirt a year so they can play one season at a BCS school. Again 19 players from FCS were drafted and several were signed as UDFA, how come they didn't get recruited to transfer? It doesn't happen, and its not about talent for the best FCS players.
Sure some become studs but how many actually get play time in NFL? I would assume not very many. maybe 1 in 100 do. very rare. I would challenge you to look up and show me how many FCS players go to the NFL compared to BCS Players and actually play. Don't you think there is a reason why the only good ones go to NDSU? Maybe we get the great players? Maybe all these players are just a gamble and you'll never know what you get?
You realize you have to start two corners right? CJ smith would start for ISU for sure. 3 secondary, 2Lbs, and a DE would start on defense. Can debate a couple other spots.
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