Morris article

00clone

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OK, to take the homer glasses off, what about this quote:

Hoiberg certainly had a rebuilding job when he began this current season, and that job will be tenfold in 2014-15.

I mean, yeah, on the surface, when you figure Ejim and Kane gone, that's big, but it's not like we're in the schitter, right?
 

marothisu

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OK, to take the homer glasses off, what about this quote:

I mean, yeah, on the surface, when you figure Ejim and Kane gone, that's big, but it's not like we're in the schitter, right?

IMO it's the same **** every year. Analysts know a little bit about the McDonald's All Americans and what not, but they don't know much else. To them, yeah there's Abdel Nader who averaged 14 points/game at NIU for one year. They have no clue if and how good he is. Same with McKay and whomever else.

I honestly almost never listen to pre-season talk for that type of **** because most of the stuff they say is off. They do get a few teams right, but outside of a team being stacked like Kentucky - they haven't a ******* clue IMO.
 

swarthmoreCY

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OK, to take the homer glasses off, what about this quote:



I mean, yeah, on the surface, when you figure Ejim and Kane gone, that's big, but it's not like we're in the schitter, right?
I knew it was going to be great when the opening line was:

"Next season will be a unique one for Iowa State coach Fred Hoiberg — it will be the first year the offense will be orchestrated by a guard recruited to Ames by Hoiberg"
 

swarthmoreCY

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OK, to take the homer glasses off, what about this quote:



I mean, yeah, on the surface, when you figure Ejim and Kane gone, that's big, but it's not like we're in the schitter, right?
I knew it was going to be great when the opening line was:

"Next season will be a unique one for Iowa State coach Fred Hoiberg — it will be the first year the offense will be orchestrated by a guard recruited to Ames by Hoiberg"
 

MartyFine

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OK, to take the homer glasses off, what about this quote:



I mean, yeah, on the surface, when you figure Ejim and Kane gone, that's big, but it's not like we're in the schitter, right?

No, ISU has 7 players it can go to right now, and I'm not even counting a guy who started in NCAA for them (or two others that played) and I'm not including Custer.

Let's see what happens with last two spots.
 

HFCS

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If you're a shooter or a finisher you're going to like playing for ISU with Morris and Niang the next two years.
 

mt85

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The first article is not worth the 10 seconds you'll never get back.
 

Dingus

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Criticisms noted on here are valid. I hardly noticed though; hardly notice that stuff anymore.
 

Dryburn

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IMO it's the same **** every year. Analysts know a little bit about the McDonald's All Americans and what not, but they don't know much else. To them, yeah there's Abdel Nader who averaged 14 points/game at NIU for one year. They have no clue if and how good he is. Same with McKay and whomever else.

I honestly almost never listen to pre-season talk for that type of **** because most of the stuff they say is off. They do get a few teams right, but outside of a team being stacked like Kentucky - they haven't a ******* clue IMO.

This. I think the analysts sometimes think these transfer players are just going to class for a year, getting out of shape, having a few beers, whatever. They seem to forget that these players are growing a year physically, and are getting a year to learn the ISU offense and defense with no real game pressure on them. I think that is part of the reason that opposing coaches each year seem to keep making comments about "playing against men" when you play ISU. These transfers that sit out a year mature, and become better players who are familiar and ready with Hoiberg's offensive system.

I think CFH will always go for the best talent available through the transfer system, if there is a player there that can fill an immediate or future need. Eventually though, I think he will move to a more conventional system of recruiting high school players that he can red-shirt and develop for a year. Either way, he is going to put a talented group of players on the floor that will continue to surprise the analysts and writers each year until they finally figure it out.

I was a little concerned with what this season just ended might be this year because ISU did not have any players "joining" the team that had sat out for a year, except for a red-shirt freshman in SDW. Instead ISU had a bunch of newbies in Jucos, true freshmen and a fifth-year transfer. Look how that worked out.
 
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mitten1975

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These analysts have a vested interest in places like Kansas, and Kentucky. I don't waste my time on that crap. We had a team that with a little better luck could have made a run to win it all. Those folks still haven't figured it out for the most part. Next year I would be surprised if we took a step down. We just need some break in our poor luck.