I'd have to see it again, but I thought that was just the dust from Hank, Jesse and Gomey pulling in?
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I'd have to see it again, but I thought that was just the dust from Hank, Jesse and Gomey pulling in?
It is probably about Hank. I just don't think Walt can deal with (kill) Jesse face to face, so he's feeling something for him (even though it's not exactly fatherly love).
He wasn't confused at all. Jane's own father advised Walt in the bar scene to do what you must to protect your own. He viewed letting Jane go as saving Jesse. He views Jesse as his son. Note, the freudian slips when he calls his own son Jesse.
Walt also didn't want Jesse to lose Andrea, but rather advised Jesse to think about if he really loved her and the boy, that he should think about the life they he has led and leads, and the potential consequences it brings those they love.
Walt tried to get Jesse to relocate. He even tried to meet him one last time in the open. He has only turned on Jesse once he became a real threat to bringing down the house of cards.
Every season Walt and Jesse have fought like dogs, then reunited in the end. I don't see this ending differently. I do however think given that Walt takes his wife's maiden name as an alias, and is in New Hampshire where Skylar is from indicates to me that they are relocated. He may end up with Jesse, and not his family.
I know you really hate Walt, but I think his absolute refusal to have Hank killed, even though Hank wants Walt dead, indicates that Walt is at least torn, and might possibly be moving back to "good".
Hank doesn't want to kill Walt; he wants to bring him down. He simply wouldn't shed any tears when Walt does kick the bucket. I mean, if Hank wanted to kill him, he could probably pull that off relatively easily and maybe even have gotten away with it.
I think Hank wants Walt dead, but just doesn't want to effectuate it himself, and wants it after Walt has faced the criminal system. I don't think there's any doubt that Hank would revel in Walt getting shanked in prison, for example.
Wanting someone to die and actually effectuating that death are two very different things.
To kill your main character at the beginning of the third to last episode of the series, what would you do for the rest of the 2 1/2 episodes? It would be extremely unusual for a show to do that. Although, Breaking Bad is an unusual show.
I think it's more interesting knowing that Walt lives, because it has all of us theorizing how he gets out of it, who dies in the shootout, who lives, who gets kidnapped/held hostage...
*sudden thought*
Hank and Gomez have been working "off the books" to get solid evidence against Walt. Hank had just called Marie to say "...it may be awhile before I get home..." Unless Gomez has family we don't know about, the only person that's going to be missed is Walt by Skylar/Walt Jr. (Give Marie a day and a half, let's say, until she starts worrying) Skylar may not necessarily report Walt missing. Not sure if this means anything, just me typing out loud.
BTW, wouldn't Walt Jr have noticed they aren't hanging out with Hank & Marie anymore?
Clearly he had accepted killing Jesse otherwise he wouldnt have called in the firsr place. He called off the hit when he saw Hank. However, not because he couldnt kill Hank IMO. Remember, this was the first time he realized Jesse was a rat, and that he just admitted to murder to an DEA tapped call and led them to the money. He has no idea that Hank and Gomey were going it alone, in his mind there was no more moves to get his family that money no matter what happenned. He was resigned to that fact and didnt want Jesse and Hank to die needlessly. I do think if he saw a way out that would allow his family to get the money, he would no doubt have killed Jesse and Hank. He thought it was over.
Clearly he had accepted killing Jesse otherwise he wouldnt have called in the first place. He called off the hit when he saw Hank. However, not because he couldnt kill Hank IMO. Remember, this was the first time he realized Jesse was a rat, and that he just admitted to murder to an DEA tapped call and led them to the money. He has no idea that Hank and Gomey were going it alone, in his mind there was no more moves to get his family that money no matter what happenned. He was resigned to that fact and didnt want Jesse and Hank to die needlessly. I do think if he saw a way out that would allow his family to get the money, he would no doubt have killed Jesse and Hank. He thought it was over.
Hank dies, along with Gomie. Marie kills herself at Walt's house after identifying him as Heisenberg, trashing it. Flynn finds Marie's body after ignoring Skylar's orders to stay away from the house.
What is Walt Jr's purpose if his innocence is not to be totally destroyed by his father's legacy? And don't say he's just there to eat breakfast.
I think Jesse escapes on foot, and Todd follows. Not sure if Gilligan will let Todd kill Jesse or if it will be the other way around. As of today, I think Jesse is somehow able to kill Todd and escape.
I do like the idea that Walt takes the ricin himself, before attempting to off Jack's guys and Lydia.
What is Walt Jr's purpose if his innocence is not to be totally destroyed by his father's legacy? And don't say he's just there to eat breakfast.
I think Jesse escapes on foot, and Todd follows. Not sure if Gilligan will let Todd kill Jesse or if it will be the other way around. As of today, I think Jesse is somehow able to kill Todd and escape.
I do like the idea that Walt takes the ricin himself, before attempting to off Jack's guys and Lydia.
Hank and Gomez die, Jesse is taken to cook with Todd, and Walt somehow gets away. Walt now on the lamb, has to come back and rescue Jesse, but he dies in the process, end scene/show.
Hank telling Marie that he had Walt in cuffs were his last words to her.
Hank telling Marie that he had Walt in cuffs were his last words to her.
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Marie suggested that Walk kill himself at the Taqueria and Hank said that would be to easy. I'm pretty sure he wants him to rot in jail.
I think the Marie going off on Heisenburg in Walt's house may be correct... I can also see Jr. finding out and losing his cool and doing the same (maybe on a blue meth rampage).
I don't see Hank dying yet, though perhaps seriously injured (mentally or physically) again, and in trouble at the hospital (Marie's motivation to eff up Walt's place). Gomez is likely a goner, which could also preclude Hank losing his mind and thrashing Walt's house (he has PTSD already, and could go off the deep end with Gomez being killed, or again his going off the deep end could inspire Marie). I also agree that Jesse will somehow end up in a one on one situation with Todd, and he'll either kill him, or Walt will kill him to save Jessie (Todd dying the simple minded "can't believe Walt killed me" way, though I don't think it'll happen yet since I'm certain there will be some more Todd/Lydia awkwardness before the end of the series, (which figures to also play a prominent role in the end of the story since it's still being set up this close to the end). I'm fairly certain that Lydia is going to get the Ricin, and we'll get to watch her end come with all the paranoia coming to fruition.
I think this last episode may have been the turning point where Walt finally realizes all the bad he's brought to the family and now needs to let everything else go to save them, but I imagine he'll either be facing Todd's uncle, or maybe even the chzech gang, not the DEA. He'll go out in a blaze of glory, either from his greed, or from saving his family/Hank/or most likely, Jesse.
Now that Todd's uncle knows about Andrea and Brock, I can see them capturing Jesse and using them to force Jesse to do the cooks (though Lydia figures to be the one to provide the idea behind Jesse's new found meth cooking motivation).
Something will end poorly for someone besides Walt. It could very well be Todd shooting Jesse and Walt then killing Todd. Interestingly enough, I can see Jesse complete his Breaking "Good" hopefully limping away to a new life at the end, Walt finally reversing course after this episode, and Hank actually being so consumed by Gomez's death, (something happening to Marie) that he actually breaks bad at the end in his attempt to get Walt by any means necessary (comment about Pinkman getting killed on tape two episodes ago precludes this IMO).
The ultimate ending has Hank going to kill Jesse in a rage, Walt stepping in front and taking the bullet, dying as Hank collapses in his ultimate horror of his insanity, and Walt asking Hank to let Jesse go in his dying breaths... This is my favorite for the ultimate outcome...
The only other conclusion I can see is super dark... Walt losing everyone, JR on meth to deal with his father's reality,(at some point his character has to show Walt the true consequences of Walt's last 2 years) Skyler in a mental institution/suicide/jail, the baby hopefully in Marie's hands (hard to kill/harm the baby, might be the only positive, but could easily be shown being adopted by new parents completely unrelated to the show at the end if Marie totally loses it). Hank likely dead by Walt's hand in a rage after Hank kills Jesse, Gomez dead already to set off the events leaving Walt completely alone, dying from his cancer alone next to his barrels of money and photos of his family... In some respects, this could show the true horror of what can happen... Life outside of the blue meth circle will go on, but inside, it'll be complete devastation, the worst case scenario on all fronts.
We'll know in a few short weeks...
I don't see Hank dying yet, though perhaps seriously injured (mentally or physically) again, and in trouble at the hospital (Marie's motivation to eff up Walt's place). Gomez is likely a goner, which could also preclude Hank losing his mind and thrashing Walt's house (he has PTSD already, and could go off the deep end with Gomez being killed, or again his going off the deep end could inspire Marie). I also agree that Jesse will somehow end up in a one on one situation with Todd, and he'll either kill him, or Walt will kill him to save Jessie (Todd dying the simple minded "can't believe Walt killed me" way, though I don't think it'll happen yet since I'm certain there will be some more Todd/Lydia awkwardness before the end of the series, (which figures to also play a prominent role in the end of the story since it's still being set up this close to the end). I'm fairly certain that Lydia is going to get the Ricin, and we'll get to watch her end come with all the paranoia coming to fruition.
I think this last episode may have been the turning point where Walt finally realizes all the bad he's brought to the family and now needs to let everything else go to save them, but I imagine he'll either be facing Todd's uncle, or maybe even the chzech gang, not the DEA. He'll go out in a blaze of glory, either from his greed, or from saving his family/Hank/or most likely, Jesse.
Now that Todd's uncle knows about Andrea and Brock, I can see them capturing Jesse and using them to force Jesse to do the cooks (though Lydia figures to be the one to provide the idea behind Jesse's new found meth cooking motivation).
Something will end poorly for someone besides Walt. It could very well be Todd shooting Jesse and Walt then killing Todd. Interestingly enough, I can see Jesse complete his Breaking "Good" hopefully limping away to a new life at the end, Walt finally reversing course after this episode, and Hank actually being so consumed by Gomez's death, (something happening to Marie) that he actually breaks bad at the end in his attempt to get Walt by any means necessary (comment about Pinkman getting killed on tape two episodes ago precludes this IMO).
The ultimate ending has Hank going to kill Jesse in a rage, Walt stepping in front and taking the bullet, dying as Hank collapses in his ultimate horror of his insanity, and Walt asking Hank to let Jesse go in his dying breaths... This is my favorite for the ultimate outcome...
The only other conclusion I can see is super dark... Walt losing everyone, JR on meth to deal with his father's reality,(at some point his character has to show Walt the true consequences of Walt's last 2 years) Skyler in a mental institution/suicide/jail, the baby hopefully in Marie's hands (hard to kill/harm the baby, might be the only positive, but could easily be shown being adopted by new parents completely unrelated to the show at the end if Marie totally loses it). Hank likely dead by Walt's hand in a rage after Hank kills Jesse, Gomez dead already to set off the events leaving Walt completely alone, dying from his cancer alone next to his barrels of money and photos of his family... In some respects, this could show the true horror of what can happen... Life outside of the blue meth circle will go on, but inside, it'll be complete devastation, the worst case scenario on all fronts.
We'll know in a few short weeks...
I think this is pretty accurate and definitely think the ricin if for Lydia, the gun for the nazi crew.
Walt has made it known that this business is only about the money from the get go. Good for Jesse for being able to critically think for once. And ff course he cares for Jesse. He doesn't want to kill Jesse at all. It is a last resort measure as Walt feels Jesse is a danger to himself and his family (which is true).
And regarding, "Personally, I think Walt is pretty cowardly. Very rarely has he killed in cold blood in the series (just the drug dealers he ran over)."
That just seems like a strange comment. I would think seeing that Walt doesn't want to kill would be a positive.
The scene in the future when he did the 52. The next episode is the Granite state.
