And that would not happen as the players are pretty much locked in the hotel and not out partying on opposing teams campus's.
Bubu kicked off team??!!
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And that would not happen as the players are pretty much locked in the hotel and not out partying on opposing teams campus's.
unless he signed an agreement with the school to stay quiet on the topic or be kicked out of school and not graduate???
Does anybody get the impression that this whole, sad situation has a future episode of "Outside the Lines" written all over it?
He doesn't directly have anything to do w/ the violations. But anyone can see the nexus here. There is a bit of hypersensitivity about everything at this point related to any seeming violation and this whole situation happened in the shadow/timing of those violations being self-reported to the NCAA.
So why wasn't this determined the first time around? Why was he penalized, then allowed to play a season, and now finally determined this? The university failed.
The University followed its protocol to a T. The only failure is Bubu's failure to act like an upstanding and decent member of society.
I think I brought it up first. I was just noting that they had to prove she was really drunk, but that wasn't really true. I looked up the code referenced by the student code of conductand for legal consent and it said a person "mentally incapacitated" cannot give legal consent. This is the definition of incapacitation in Iowa code.
709.1A INCAPACITATION. As used in this chapter, "incapacitated" means a person is disabled or deprived of ability, as follows: 1. "Mentally incapacitated" means that a person is temporarily incapable of apprising or controlling the person's own conduct due to the influence of a narcotic, anesthetic, or intoxicating substance.
Given she called Bubu for a ride, remembered details etc. I am not sure she met the legal standard for incapacitated. So honestly I am not sure what the University had to go on. Unless there was other evidence beyond the fabricated evidence that supports the victim's story of forcible rape I don't get it. Given he was not dismissed from school I would speculate he was not found guilty of rape or sexual misconduct but rather some other vague part of the athletic code of conduct regarding representing the University in a positive light (or something along those lines)
It is unfair and speculative to assume he was found guilty of rape by the university. I shouldn't of inferred he was guilty of sexual misconduct either.
I do think he was guilty beyond any reasonable doubt of being a dirtball though. They can kick him off the team for whatever reason they want and they did for reasons we may never know. However, I suspect more will come out. With his dad working for the University am sure it is rather sensitive but if it was dismissal for any reason besides sexual assault you would think he would want to make that clear.
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Bottom line, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong person.....maybe a nice guy, but a horrible decision.
Yeah because I have never known anyone who is a good person to have sex with a drunk girl who had a bf. Oh the humanity hang him up in the center square and stone him to death.
If that is your definition of a good person (or rather, something you would look the other way on) then I'm going to have to disagree with you. Bubu screwed up, and the worst thing that happens is he gets kicked off the basketball team where he started as a walk-on. Dude had no chance to make an NBA roster so really, what's the big deal? I'd be much more concerned with all the crap the girl involved has to put up with than what some spoiled stupid kid did.
Sorry, a bit more sensitive to this having known people who were on the receiving end of these types of 'good' people.
I know lots of people who i would consider good people who have hooked up with someone drunk in college. In fact some of these people are now married.
When people do bad things when they're younger and turn out to be "good people" as adults does not mean that those bad things magically did not happen.
This is somewhat off topic, but I remember last week someone on here posed the question "I found a cell phone, etc, can/should I sell it" and this site BLEW UP on them for being a dirtbag/scum for even thinking it.
I find it odd in any situation involving sexual misconduct we are quick to say, "well, lots of good people have sex with drunk people" or try to make it seem like HE is the victim. I didn't see anyone saying, "Poor dude who found the cell phone...look at the strife it's causing him."
I find it odd in any situation involving sexual misconduct we are quick to say, "well, lots of good people have sex with drunk people" or try to make it seem like HE is the victim. I didn't see anyone saying, "Poor dude who found the cell phone...look at the strife it's causing him."
I'm sure the amount of times he was out at the bars during his suspension didn't help out his case. Dude was pulling a Jerome Tiller and was out non-stop.
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