Dave Tollefsen played with the Giants and was on their most recent SB team and played a significant role on their DL. Josh Baker was getting good minutes with the Jets until getting hurt last year. Chris Greisen was the back-up QB to Tony Romo in their playoff run three years ago and activated again by the Cowboys two years ago. Chad Kilgore and Tyler Shaw who were 2012 seniors are with the Chiefs and Cardinals respectively.
Collin Bevins to NWMSU
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Dave Tollefsen played with the Giants and was on their most recent SB team and played a significant role on their DL. Josh Baker was getting good minutes with the Jets until getting hurt last year. Chris Greisen was the back-up QB to Tony Romo in their playoff run three years ago and activated again by the Cowboys two years ago. Chad Kilgore and Tyler Shaw who were 2012 seniors are with the Chiefs and Cardinals respectively.
Which is a lot different than having no opportunity as was said by some in this thread. NW had scouts from 28 NFL teams attend a regular season practice last year.
As the story was from over 20 days ago, I no longer remember the precise details. As I recall, it was uncomplimentary to the ISU coaching staff and environment.
Either NoJustice is a NWMSU fan/alum/coach or a family member.
A mod might not do it but I bet that IP is from Maryville.
A mod might not do it but I bet that IP is from Maryville.
I assume you must be related to Collin, or you are a good friend of his? Why else would you feel the need to come on here and try to clear his name with a fanbase that has already moved on from this?
Players have quit the ISU football team over the years and the fans have had no problem with them at all because they did it with professionalism, class, and respect. They gave the coaches plenty of time to go out and recruit someone else to take their spot.
I have no problem with Collin leaving. If he didn't like it at ISU, then why stay? I'm sure the coaches wouldn't want him either if his heart wasn't in it. But don't do it in late June. These coaches respected him enough to offer him a full ride at ISU, and they respected his effort and skills enough to have him listed as a starter going into his RS Freshmen season.
I just think he could have offered the same respect back. That's all. I hope he enjoys NWSU and dominating inferior players. Good luck to him.
NoJustice seems mostly concerned about NWMSU being respected. We all get the point that NFL scouts come there also.
All he said that could be characterized as such would be where he stated that the players seemed more close knit than at ISU and the coaches preached a family environment that ay differ from that of ISU.
Not scathing but a distinction he made. He lived it. We did not. Hard to argue.
Yes. The same would be true with disrespect toward ISU on this site would it not? More so a dispelling of things said by some making a statement that has no basis in truth as they have never seen what they opine on.
And I believe Chris Williams said he knew very little about Northwest and not much more than that. Not sure one could characterize an admission of not knowing the same as a good defense.
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Sounds like every transfer, ever.
"[New place] has a great family atmosphere, supportive coaches, great players, looking forward to this new opportunity since moving on from [Old place]."
Boilerplate stuff
I do not disagree with that. The characterization of the the comments was "bush". Not cliche'. Which it may have been. Is that a bush league statement?
In the first post of this thread, CW calls it a top of the line D2 program. Plenty of people have posted about how great it is. Most of us wish him well, but we aren't under any delusions. We know the difference between D1 and D2 schools.
As for your attempts to defend Bevins, CW knows the family and has posted about his interactions. You aren't helping him any by raising the issue weeks after everyone else moved on. Don't think that the worst comments in the thread are indicative of the opinions of our fans. The general sense is that he made a move that he thought was best for him. We wish him well. However, many of us have seen this sort of thing before and we aren't convinced that it was the right move (based on our knowledge). Yet, it is he choice and we wish him well.
I didn't call it "bush." You posted it in response to someone remembering that it was uncomplimentary to ISU coaching staff, presumably an attempt by you to confirm that claim. My response was meant to indicate that it was no more uncomplimentary than a statement from any other transfer, ever.
Here's what Collin's NFL opportunity now consists of.....
Playing in a stadium that seats 6,500 people. Just for reference, West Des Moines Valley's football stadium is bigger than that. 8,000 fans went to watch Iowa practice at West Des Moines Valley.
And here was NWSU's schedule last year....
East Central (Oklahoma)
Central Missouri
Fort Hays State
Nebraska-Kearney
Northeastern State
Central Oklahoma
Pittsburg State
Missouri Southern
Washburn
Emporia State
Missouri Western
Wow. Now nothing will prepare one better for the NFL than going up against those teams. Oklahoma and Texas have nothing on Emporia State.
I really didn't want to have to go down this road, but when someone comes on here and tries to equate playing football at NWSU with playing at ISU and then says their opportunity at getting to the NFL is not hurt by making this move, then I feel they have to be set straight somewhat.
Playing in a stadium that seats 6,500 people. Just for reference, West Des Moines Valley's football stadium is bigger than that. 8,000 fans went to watch Iowa practice at West Des Moines Valley.
And here was NWSU's schedule last year....
East Central (Oklahoma)
Central Missouri
Fort Hays State
Nebraska-Kearney
Northeastern State
Central Oklahoma
Pittsburg State
Missouri Southern
Washburn
Emporia State
Missouri Western
Wow. Now nothing will prepare one better for the NFL than going up against those teams. Oklahoma and Texas have nothing on Emporia State.
I really didn't want to have to go down this road, but when someone comes on here and tries to equate playing football at NWSU with playing at ISU and then says their opportunity at getting to the NFL is not hurt by making this move, then I feel they have to be set straight somewhat.
Same respect back? That would be staying when he did not want to be there? I don't think any coach wants a player who does not want to be there. Heck. You got Rodney Coe. The kid that ate his way from RB to DT in a year and Iowa pulled a previous schollie as a result. He is the same guy that some stated "would be the starter anyway". Coe just came off a season dominating exactly what level of play last year?
My remembrance of the now defunct article was he didn't like his teammates and coaches at ISU but found the new ones that he has hardly spent any time with like family. Seems like he shouldn't have mentioned ISU teammates at all if he had nothing good to say. It has been over a month though so I don't remember much other than thinking it was unwise.
Have you been here before????
Most of all we are all disappointed someone with Bevins's potential left, even more disappointed he left with said barbs when he didnt have to. Even more disappointed with myself Im trying to argue this to someone who seems to not get this....
I am thinking you know that some have and comments made are not always directed at an individual but in general. You and I can see the post made not too far back in this thread. That is what is being responded to.
Now, I'm wondering if NoJustice is a troll, bored, and/or compulsive. He has moved past defending Bevins/NWMSU and on to attacking an ISU player with obscure iinfo related to EEIU. Likely sign of a troll.
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Sounds like your buddy Collin was afraid of competing with Coe, or what?
These posts by you all of the sudden make you sound desperate. You sound like you know Collin made a bad decision, but you thought it would make you feel better about his decision if you could come on here and hopefully find some support or something?
Rhoads signed Coe long before Collin quit. He was planning on having BOTH guys. Coe was not a replacement for Collin. Maybe Collin was afraid Coe was going to come in and take his spot? Now you might be on to something there. I hadn't thought about that before. Thanks.
