I don't think saying you're DAMN proud of something is a real good way of convincing people that your side of the state is not a bunch of hillbillies.
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Collin Bevins to NWMSU
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I don't think saying you're DAMN proud of something is a real good way of convincing people that your side of the state is not a bunch of hillbillies.
Careful now, I am sure you make yourself look pretty bad at times and don't need much help.
Maryville died the day they leveled the Tau House. As for the Hopkins Picnic, I found my Hoop'n in Hopkins 3-on-3 Trophy the other day going through boxes in the basement. I miss Terry's House of Heartburn's B&G and Greasy Cheeseburgers after the bars closed.
No facts in this post......only speculation. Perhaps ISU wanted Collin to continue to put on weight and stay inside at defensive tackle, when actually he wanted to stay at his current weight, play defensive end AND wrestle (which would naturally keep his weight down) in college. Couple that with being closer to home, smaller school and playing with his best buddy. If that might actually be the situation, I could see how a Freshman in college could make such a decision. Still disappointed he has left ISU, but if the speculative scenario above might actually be true NWMSU might truly be a better fit for him. Good luck Collin.
I think a lot of people can see that scenario too but then just say that. The interview and tweets have been odd.
Yea, I wasn't nearly as disturbed by this until he started talking. Not surprisingly, his dad's quotes have all been much more diplomatic.
Yes he was from Mount Ayr. Graduated in 85 or 86. I went to high school with several of his family memebers. Yes I believe he was pretty upset about not being the man he once was up in Ames. I believe he committed suicide at his house during a party. Sad story
My guess is the culture of ISU was not to his liking. That is not a slam to ISU. It is just a matter of being in an environment and program he feels more comfortable in. No different than a kid from a metroplex having problems adjusting to small cities like Ames. The thug/hip-hop environment is not for everyone.
if Collin has the ability to be an NFL player, he will get his opportunity. Attending and playing at NW does not hurt his chances at all. No different than Xavier Omon, Dave Tollofsen, Chris Greisen, Seth Wand, Josh Baker, Chad Kilgore, Travis Chappalear, or Tyler Shaw. All of whom were on NFL payrolls in the last two years. The last three were signed as PFAs after their senior campaign in 2012. Tollofsen with a SB ring with Giants prior to being released by the Raiders recently.
The MIAA and Northwest have reputations known to the NFL. The difference is that the players are vetted more thoroughly. Like Brandon Williams of Missouri Southern going in the 3rd round this year and David Bass of Missouri Western going in the 7th. There were more drafted out of the MIAA last year than The Valley. The conference that UNI hails from that should have beaten Iowa, and played Wisconsin tough for a long while last year. And the same division as South Dakota that beat Minnesota two years ago.
In short, Collin is not all of a sudden denied the opportunity to play in the NFL. Further, there are quite a few at Northwest that could help ISU, truth be known. Not only that, it was two years ago the ISU staff visited Northwest to get some insight as to what Northwest was doing defensively.
Some eyes would be opened and some ignorance shed some light if those that comment on something they have no exposure to if they attended a Pitt vs. Northwest game or walk by these players on the field after a game. Or a Northwest vs. Missouri Western game. A respect would be garnered.
Collin apparently feels that Northwest is a better fit. Many there feel the same way. It really is a special place where football is concerned with a level of play that would surprise if seen first hand. There are half dozen players on the NFL radar on each senior class. Maybe only 3 get signed in that class like the 2012 senior football class.
It is unfair to rip on a program, university, or a level of play you have not seen. A gameday in Maryville is some pretty neat stuff.
if Collin has the ability to be an NFL player, he will get his opportunity. Attending and playing at NW does not hurt his chances at all. No different than Xavier Omon, Dave Tollofsen, Chris Greisen, Seth Wand, Josh Baker, Chad Kilgore, Travis Chappalear, or Tyler Shaw. All of whom were on NFL payrolls in the last two years. The last three were signed as PFAs after their senior campaign in 2012. Tollofsen with a SB ring with Giants prior to being released by the Raiders recently.
The MIAA and Northwest have reputations known to the NFL. The difference is that the players are vetted more thoroughly. Like Brandon Williams of Missouri Southern going in the 3rd round this year and David Bass of Missouri Western going in the 7th. There were more drafted out of the MIAA last year than The Valley. The conference that UNI hails from that should have beaten Iowa, and played Wisconsin tough for a long while last year. And the same division as South Dakota that beat Minnesota two years ago.
In short, Collin is not all of a sudden denied the opportunity to play in the NFL. Further, there are quite a few at Northwest that could help ISU, truth be known. Not only that, it was two years ago the ISU staff visited Northwest to get some insight as to what Northwest was doing defensively.
Some eyes would be opened and some ignorance shed some light if those that comment on something they have no exposure to if they attended a Pitt vs. Northwest game or walk by these players on the field after a game. Or a Northwest vs. Missouri Western game. A respect would be garnered.
Collin apparently feels that Northwest is a better fit. Many there feel the same way. It really is a special place where football is concerned with a level of play that would surprise if seen first hand. There are half dozen players on the NFL radar on each senior class. Maybe only 3 get signed in that class like the 2012 senior football class.
It is unfair to rip on a program, university, or a level of play you have not seen. A gameday in Maryville is some pretty neat stuff.
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Fine. The primary issues for many (most??) were the timing of his departure and the stuff he said to the press after he left. Both were complete bush league...
This is what I agree with. I'm sure he knew before this summer that he didn't fit in at ISU. He left the coaches hanging pretty good. Not professional at all IMO.
And to compare NWSU with ISU is laughable. I'm sorry. I agree with you that they are probably a good program, but to think he has just as good a chance at the NFL playing at NWSU as he does at ISU is not accurate. Does NWSU have their own pro day where all the NFL scouts come to campus and work all the guys out?
I don't care if Collin just didn't think ISU was the right fit and he preferred the atmosphere at NWSU more. That's fine. But don't act as if NWSU is on almost the same level as ISU football wise. It's not even close. ISU would beat NWSU by 40+ pts.
I wish Collin well. I only wish he would have handled it better.
1. I never did put ISU and NW on the same level. You are taking it to a point never taken. But we do have players that could play there. Not just ISU, but D1 in general.
2. As a matter of fact we do.
3. Once again where did I say it was the same level.
The point is, if Collin has NFL potential, he will get his opportunity. Just like every other player always has at Northwest.
My question is what bush league statements did he make?
So, what brings a NWSU advocate to this forum a few weeks after everyone else finished discussing the matter?
Most of us know what NWSU is and isn't, as well as what ISU is/isn't. Coming on to this thread to defend NWSU is probably not going to be very satisfying to you. The main guy on the forum, Chris Williams, has already given a good defense for your school.
He will get an opportunity at playing in the NFL by playing for NWSU, just not as good of an opportunity as he would at ISU. Just as a player starting for ISU doesn't have as good of a chance as someone starting for Alabama.
Collin could have started at ISU, a Big 12 school going up against the likes of Texas and Oklahoma on national TV. If he would have been sitting on the bench at ISU for 5 years, then I agree he'd be better off going to NWSU probably. But as a starter at both places, his NFL chances are MUCH greater at ISU.
And I don't know if Collin made any bush league comments or not, and I didn't say he did. I said he handled it very poorly by waiting until the summer before his RS freshmen season to suddenly feel the need to quit. He put the coaches in a horrible position by doing that.
These are the same coaches that gave him a scholarship basically worth about $80,000 and had him listed as the starter for his RS freshman season. So I think he was treated more than fair in that respect. But he didn't show the same respect by giving the coaches the time they needed to find someone to replace him on the roster.
Some of his statements were quoted in the article below. The article is now archived and not available to non-members, so I don't know if the statements are still in the article. If you are interested, you can create an account and read the article.
crestonnews.com | Bevins becomes a Bearcat in Creston, Iowa
The quotes were discussed in this thread:
http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/football/172826-collin-bevins-nwmsu-7.html#post3503959
I've read the article you reference prior to it being archived. What specifically y did he say that was bush?
