Kevin used to be funny, but most of the time now he's become a cartoon. Creed has a lot of gold though.
The Office Finale
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Kevin used to be funny, but most of the time now he's become a cartoon. Creed has a lot of gold though.
Daryl is great. Kevin was good, now hes literally a big dumb baby, kinda gets old.
I love Wallace when he shows up. Clark was a good addition towards the end, hes a pretty funny kid.
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Agree completely about Kevin. He hasn't evolved at all, and his shtick wore out pretty fast.
Creed is so well-used, and is probably the funniest character on the show.
I agree with all of the above except I probably prefer AD on the whole because I love shows that can make me laugh until I cry. That's what AD does show in show out. However, since Michael Scott left (I disliked his character much), there was more ROFL episodes for The Office be it letting Dwight a little more loose (shotgun at the funeral) or even Spader. Though there was a stretch there where I almost quit. Glad I didn't because the Spring episodes have been fantastic.
At my prior job I had numerous people that I worked with that were like the characters on The Office. That was the initial appeal to me and from that I fell in love with the show and it has been my favorite show since.
I'm just going to re-iterate that I am a big AD fan. When it was really cooking, which was often, it was probably funnier than any other show. No argument. When I said The Office would be remembered as "the best", regardless of the critical beating it's taken the last couple years, I meant that in 10 years it will be remember in the last link in that Cheers-Seinfeld-Friends-The Office chain of great NBC comedies that really defined their era. Maybe "best" wasn't the right term. Sorry to start that ******* match.
I'll also say this, Arrested Development's reputation benefits from a lot of things besides the quality of the show: 1) It ended still in it's prime. 2) It came around at a time when shows becoming cult hits on DVD was becoming a thing (see also Futurama and Family Guy). 3) It was also "lucky" to be cancelled right around the time people started taking TV way too seriously on Internet forums. I honestly believe that if The Office had been cancelled after 3 seasons and AD had gone 9, this conversation would be completely reversed right now.
Agree totally with your post. I thought when Kevin spoke less, it was great...now it is TOO over the top. I agree, "Squat" and "Dwight Junior" were well timed additions and really added to the who.
I thought they did a great job slowly bringing Daryl's character out over time.
I'm pretty sure you're wrong, and that the only reason people don't like The Office is to say they don't like The Office.
THIS. If AD hadn't gotten cancelled so early, nobody would like it. Kinda like Family Guy. It really wasn't that popular until it got cancelled.
Happens all the time in the entertainment industry. Some singer or actor who nobody cares about turns into a GOD once they're dead.
This is a fairly foolish statement. Obviously people liked it so that they were upset that it was cancelled. Obviously people liked it, or the popularity wouldn't have continued to spread - if nobody had liked it, nobody would have cared or talked about it.
And I watched and liked Family Guy before it was cancelled, and think it's terrible since.
Haha, this has no logic. You are entitled to your opinion, but if people watched it just to say they like it, wouldn't they like it? If they didn't want to like it, or simply didn't like it, they wouldn't watch.
If there is some group of people out there that turns up their noses at The Office haters, I would think one could lie about it if the said group means a lot to them.
In other words, you are wrong *****.
He executed his argument poorly, but it's still a decent one to make. AD's rep benefitted from being cancelled. It didn't have a chance to go downhill and run out of ideas. It's just possible to maintain that high of a level for 8-9 years. Even in season 3 the seams were starting to show. That's why, while I'll almost definitely binge them within a week of release, I'm pretty pessimistic about the upcoming Netflix season. It won't be as good.
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Family Guy was pretty popular during its first run, and I recall it being super-hyped before it aired (didn't it premiere right before the Super Bowl in 1997 or so?).
And I can't think of many people who didn't become famous until after they died that also didn't live 100+ years ago when we didn't have much in the way of mass media to keep people informed of the latest art/music/literature/etc.
I get what you're saying, and yes, it's possible (even likely) that Arrested Development would have gotten worse over time. It certainly seems to be more common than not. However, no matter how bad it would have become, and even if the upcoming season flops, it doesn't take away from the greatness of the first 3 seasons. And those 3 seasons are all better than The Office's best seasons, IMO.
Again, look at The Simpsons...everyone knows it's sucked for many years now, but still recognizes how great the early years were.
They are really apples and oranges to compare though. The Office spent time making you care about those characters beyond the laughs, and AD had no time for that, so they were able to achieve that insanely high gags-per-minute rate. The Office tried to be the best American-style workplace sitcom it could be, whereas AD was an ambitious self-referential farce. Really, the only "current" show off the top my head I can think that tried to do what AD did is 30 Rock.
It's not a foolish statement. It may be slightly exaggerated for effect. It clearly isn't your opinion .
I rarely heard anybody talk about AD when it was on. I watched it a time or two and didn't get into it. It gets cancelled. People start to remember it a little more fondly. Really the exact opposite of The Office. It lingered a little past it's prime and this thread is evident of that :smile:
I think we're saying similar things. AD has to have been somewhat popular, it is just more popular because people feel like it "ended too soon."
Give a shiny toy racecar to a little kid. 15 minutes later give his brother an old sock. He'll throw the car aside and want the sock. It's called psychology or something
