As bad as the football stats above are, the basketball numbers just make you cringe.
*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
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As bad as the football stats above are, the basketball numbers just make you cringe.
Adding them for the new orleans market would be like adding NIU to get the Chicago market, haha.
Every single member of the big east would be a better option than Tulane.
They don't have unlimited scholarships. There will always be sleepers. Texas already has all the recruiting advantages in the world. I'm not sure they could get much better.
This article is pure speculation, but the author seems to think Louisville is coming to the Big 12, probably along with West Virginia (would might be spited an SEC offer because of Mizzou) and Cincy.
Louisville To The Big 12 Looks Like A Done Deal | Cardinal Connect
There is some speculation that the only reason Louisville may have decided not to go public just yet with the Big 12 offer is because Jurich is trying to make it a package deal with Louisville, Cincinnati, and West Virginia. Like I said, most of this conference realignment stuff is pure speculation and rumors. However, there has been a lot of talk here recently that makes it appear that Louisville will be in the Big 12, sooner than later. Oklahoma president David Boren told the media that the Big 12 could expand as early as next week. If that’s the case, I think it bodes pretty well for Louisville.
Louisville To The Big 12 Looks Like A Done Deal | Cardinal Connect
There is some speculation that the only reason Louisville may have decided not to go public just yet with the Big 12 offer is because Jurich is trying to make it a package deal with Louisville, Cincinnati, and West Virginia. Like I said, most of this conference realignment stuff is pure speculation and rumors. However, there has been a lot of talk here recently that makes it appear that Louisville will be in the Big 12, sooner than later. Oklahoma president David Boren told the media that the Big 12 could expand as early as next week. If that’s the case, I think it bodes pretty well for Louisville.
Tulane has more potential than a New Mexico and could add more, long term, than a TCU ever could.
Interesting idea.
That Brian Murphy dude nailed it. I know I'd be booking my *** to New Orleans for that first ISU/Tulane game.
Add them instead of Cincy.
Interesting idea.
That Brian Murphy dude nailed it. I know I'd be booking my *** to New Orleans for that first ISU/Tulane game.
Add them instead of Cincy.
Assuming MU to SEC: I agree that the pipeline of talent isn't going to close, though it may come from FL more than TX in the SEC. I don't think the KU game will necessarily survive, as Turner Gill needs all the easy games he can get to save his job. Playing MU in preseason isn't going to get that done. Probably shave a win or two off of MU's total, assuming Pinkel can keep them at this level.
As for getting back at TX, I do think that's possible, but not necessarily in the current environment. I'd get everyone to commit rights long term (13 years a good starting point). Then I'd come back with proposals to the bylaws that the majority would support and likely TX won't since the rules favor them now. Little guys voted TX way for years because TX could take their ball and go elsewhere, and the other guys needed the TV money. That money is a lot less without TX. You can't tell me Pac 12 and B1G didn't say "Our way or no way" to TX. SEC already has top dogs to bring in big TV money. ACC is a long way away and the only other contender. Not sure they'd want TX but who knows. Sure TX can go independent, but they don't have the Notre Dame guaranteed BCS bid if they go 10-2 or better, and they wouldn't get the schedule that Notre Dame has taken years to develop. Imagine TX playing BYU's schedule for a few years, and try to sell LHN with that... In truth, after the long-term deal is signed, who has who? Really?
Don't give away the game.
Once UT signs away media rights for an extended period, a solid voting block will emerge on conference matters pertaining to LHN and other contentious issues. Step one is to make sure everyone commits (through media sign off) to making the Big 12 their home.
All cards have not been played yet. Keep this on the DL.
Orangebloods.com - UT makes concessions on LHN as part of granting rights
LHN to not do any HS stuff, at all, according to Chip.
LHN to not do any HS stuff, at all, according to Chip.
Well, there goes Mizzou's excuse.
I wonder what crap Mizzou will try to come up with. Just admit you're star struck and value the "SEC" chant more than money, winning, history, stability, and recruiting.
Interesting.
Honestly, if I could choose between 6 year grant of rights with Mizzou, or 13 year without them, I'm not sure which I'd prefer.
If Mizzou stays, and Big 12 announces new member(s), expect SEC adding WVU to come quickly as well.
If that is true, and they get the 13 year rights deal, it is all the demands MU (and OU/OSU) pushed for. Short revenue sharing on Tier 3/LHN, which isn't going to happen, I don't know what else they could get...
In before:
"Six years isn't long enough. That isn't stability. Plus we'll still get more money in the SEC."
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exactly. if they don't stay now, there is no offer except guaranteeing 5 win or less seasons for the rest of eternity that will sway them.
Its true though. A 6 year rights deal only really gets you 4-5 years of 'stability' before everyone could just start with 'we're leaving, as of *insert date rights deal ends here*'.
13 years (to the end of the current fox contract) and HS would be something different.
I still say though that this whole 'rights' thing favors texas more than a missouri. Much bigger budget hit for Missouri to leave later if they sign on than Texas, compared to the size of the budget. Should just raise the buyouts instead, to a % of athletic department revenue.
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