*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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Another thing-If Mizzou goes to the SEC and we go to the Big East, I will bet in 5 years we are the more attractive school for the Big 10 based on perception. Mizzou would struggle there I think.
 
Agreed. This is our best option. Even if the b12 is saved, the money won't be what we all thought it would be. I assume fox will renegotiate 2nd tier rights, and the windfall we thought we were getting will be gone.

We've had teams that were better than Big East BCS bowl teams without ever having a shot at a BCS game (ACC too, not sure why they get a pass for sending unranked teams to the BCS). That's just a fact.

Not sure what to make of that though. On one hand it means ISU could very realistically play in BCS bowls. On the other hand it exposes the Big East as a team whose champion has been SIGNIFICANTLY worse than MWC and WAC champions.
 
Agreed. This is our best option. Even if the b12 is saved, the money won't be what we all thought it would be. I assume fox will renegotiate 2nd tier rights, and the windfall we thought we were getting will be gone.

It's the third best option. The best would be the Big Ten somehow swooping in, which has about a .1% chance of happening. The second is the Big 12 keeping all remaining teams and maintaining the television contract. The third is Big East, which is seeming realer by the moment.

It'll sure be neat to end up in a league with which we have no history, save maybe KSU or KU or Mizzou coming with us.
 
This could potentially be good news for us unless the Big East wants Tech over us. Which I could see for a traveling buddy with TCU.

Yes but then the argument is us or k-state. No KU means k-state isn't a lock. It would be us versus them. We got them on academics and Olympic sports. Plus Ames (as bad as it is) is A HUNDRED TIMES BETTER THAN MANHATTAN!
 
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It's the third best option. The best would be the Big Ten somehow swooping in, which has about a .1% chance of happening. The second is the Big 12 keeping all remaining teams and maintaining the television contract. The third is Big East, which is seeming realer by the moment.

It'll sure be neat to end up in a league with which we have no history, save maybe KSU or KU or Mizzou coming with us.

0.1%? So you are saying there's a chance?
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Not really.
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More Texas trying to bully the Pac 16....ESPN Austin VIA Chip Brown states ACC is willing to take LHN as is.
 
It's the third best option. The best would be the Big Ten somehow swooping in, which has about a .1% chance of happening. The second is the Big 12 keeping all remaining teams and maintaining the television contract. The third is Big East, which is seeming realer by the moment.

It'll sure be neat to end up in a league with which we have no history, save maybe KSU or KU or Mizzou coming with us.

Stupid as it is, historical ties and tradition don't matter in this discussion anymore. It's wrong, but they don't matter.
 
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I find it very hard to believe that Texas will go to the P12 without Tech. TX politicians raised hell last year when Baylor wasn't part of the P12 deal. It will be worse if a state school is not part of that package.
 
I've been thinking about the realignment mess. Pollard hasn't made statements saying that ISU is in trouble, or looking or anything. He did say the other day we'd be in a good conference and to get off the panic button. I'm looking forward to him making a statement after all of this is done, probably later this week. I admit that I wasn't too fond of JP after he fired Mac and hired Mr Commemerative Coin, but he's handled the things right in realignment so far. It's a refreshing change from some of the other AD's and Presidents. Between him and our outgoing President, they're doing a good job as far as I can tell. Waiting is torture, but it is Iowa game week. Seeing the team beat Iowa will take our minds of realignment for a while...Go State!
 
Bobby Burton on 247sports is saying

Pac12 is weighing taking Kansas over Texas Tech. Tech is still in play but teams would prefer adding Kansas to strengthen bb.

Tech by itself makes zero sense. OSU, OU, KU, MU...that makes sense from a pac 10 perspective.

Take OSU if you have to to get OU, then add two good schools. Tech make no sense unless you have to take them to get Texas.
 
More Texas trying to bully the Pac 16....ESPN Austin VIA Chip Brown states ACC is willing to take LHN as is.

I do not believe this for a second. Dodds told Chipper this so the schlonghorns can try and save their precious network. My prediction? The next conference Texas goes to will be the next one destroyed.

BTW, ISU will get a windfall via lawsuits...
 
More Texas trying to bully the Pac 16....ESPN Austin VIA Chip Brown states ACC is willing to take LHN as is.

That seems like total Texas propaganda. No way anyone is going to allow it.
 
It's the third best option. The best would be the Big Ten somehow swooping in, which has about a .1% chance of happening. The second is the Big 12 keeping all remaining teams and maintaining the television contract. The third is Big East, which is seeming realer by the moment.

It'll sure be neat to end up in a league with which we have no history, save maybe KSU or KU or Mizzou coming with us.

The Big XII keeping the remaining teams and the current TV contract is not going to happen. Fox didn't pay the Big XII 90 million a year to spread around 9 teams, they paid it for 10 teams.
 
Stupid as it is, historical ties and tradition don't matter in this discussion anymore. It's wrong, but they don't matter.

Wouldn't it be stupid having MU, KU, KSU, ISU, NUB each in a different conference, with each being far away from each of its conference mates?
 
It's the third best option. The best would be the Big Ten somehow swooping in, which has about a .1% chance of happening. The second is the Big 12 keeping all remaining teams and maintaining the television contract. The third is Big East, which is seeming realer by the moment.

It'll sure be neat to end up in a league with which we have no history, save maybe KSU or KU or Mizzou coming with us.

While it would be good to go that direction, I'd like more tradition games. Losing all the big money draws of the past (Nebraska, TAMU, and maybe OU/Texas and Iowa down the road when Big 10 goes to 9 conference games) will have an effect on our program, as will travel times. We need a few short travel sites for football and the other sports. College football with no traditional rivalry games is hollow, and rivalry games are the draw for a lot of fans.
 
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