Oklahoma Contemplating Leaving Big XII

Why is it always the schools that are rolling in money that are always complaining and unhappy all the time?

Since when does A&M, OU, Texas, etc have money problems? My word.. how much is enough?

But instead, they always want more. These schools were already getting the lions share of Big 12 revenue, while schools like ISU, KU, and KSU were getting screwed over. And they are the ones that are unhappy and threatening to leave? Give me a break.

This is exactly the part I don't understand. I hope it all works out ok.
 
For the Big 12 its either add a reasonably good program soon or be done. After that, they create an exit fee and try to get back to 12 while still looking for quality additions or start looking to place teams in as good of conferences as they can muster. I wouldnt mind the Big East but the obvious choice is the Big 10. The 2nd option is about a 2% chance but that goes up with a Pac 16 and up even more depending on the increasing stability of the Big East. If they want to stay in the Big East the Big 10 has limited options.
 
For the Big 12 its either add a reasonably good program soon or be done. After that, they create an exit fee and try to get back to 12 while still looking for quality additions or start looking to place teams in as good of conferences as they can muster. I wouldnt mind the Big East but the obvious choice is the Big 10. The 2nd option is about a 2% chance but that goes up with a Pac 16 and up even more depending on the increasing stability of the Big East. If they want to stay in the Big East the Big 10 has limited options.

I can't imagine a situation in which a team not in the SEC and not named Notre Dame or Texas turns down the Big10. Our only hope for the big10 is that the big10 waits to be the last to go to 16 teams, and when they decide to go to 16 the teams that remain add virtually no additional TV viewers and the big10 thinks that we are more reputable school to add than the others.
 
Man this really sucks. Come home from our win last night finally feeling pretty good....only to start reading this OU crap. I am reading everywhere trying to figure best scenario.

If OU, OSU, Tech and UT bolt west, you guys are in better shape than we are because you are closer to Big East regions and they just took on TCU....so they already have footprint in Texas and no way TCU wants us in Big East.

I just want it to be over. We will land where we land. But at this stage I would rather be in a lesser conference than to continue to feel like we have to bend over for UT and OU. You guys had good thread last June (2010) showing a revised Big 12 that would keep AQ. That did not look so bad....but whatever.
 
Why is it always the schools that are rolling in money that are always complaining and unhappy all the time?

Since when does A&M, OU, Texas, etc have money problems? My word.. how much is enough?

But instead, they always want more. These schools were already getting the lions share of Big 12 revenue, while schools like ISU, KU, and KSU were getting screwed over. And they are the ones that are unhappy and threatening to leave? Give me a break.

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Man this really sucks. Come home from our win last night finally feeling pretty good....only to start reading this OU crap. I am reading everywhere trying to figure best scenario.

If OU, OSU, Tech and UT bolt west, you guys are in better shape than we are because you are closer to Big East regions and they just took on TCU....so they already have footprint in Texas and no way TCU wants us in Big East.

I just want it to be over. We will land where we land. But at this stage I would rather be in a lesser conference than to continue to feel like we have to bend over for UT and OU. You guys had good thread last June (2010) showing a revised Big 12 that would keep AQ. That did not look so bad....but whatever.

Dude........this totally sucks. I'll never get the driving force of greed....it's not me. But once again, something I love looks like it will pay the price.

Let's inundate T. Boone Pickens with emails telling him to preserve the BCS status of ISU, KU, KSU, and Mizzou :)
 
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If this had occurred 10 years ago I would not be nearly as concerned. FB was reasonably successful and MBB and WBB were very good. This is the worst possible time to be looking at re-alignment, with 2 of the 3 of those in the midst of rebuilding.I was hoping the B12 would at least hang on a couple years and maybe by then we'd have some recent success.
Second, I understand the "blame Mizzou",blame Nebraska" but the confernce implosion really began with expansion-when the Big 8 added the remnants, some of them more concerned about themselves (UT) from a conference that had fallen apart due to cheating (SMU).The former Big 8 had a great deal of pride in itself and did not have a reputation for all that baggage.(Yes there was some rumors of improprioties but not the blatant reputation of the SWC (or the (SEC)).
 
Just saw a breaking news scroll actross the bottom of the Oregon/LSU game stating that Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech and Texas looking at PAC-12 and that T Boone Pickens is expecting Okie State to be moving to that conference soon and he will support the move.


Looks like the Big 12 is officially starting to fall apart with no expansion and it is time for ISU to make their own move!
 
Just saw a breaking news scroll actross the bottom of the Oregon/LSU game stating that Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech and Texas looking at PAC-12 and that T Boone Pickens is expecting Okie State to be moving to that conference soon and he will support the move.


Looks like the Big 12 is officially starting to fall apart with no expansion and it is time for ISU to make their own move!

We need to package ourselves right away with KSU, KU, and maybe Mizzou. All alone, we are toast.

Then again, after watching us play tonight, a schedule full of Western Michigan and Ball State sounds pretty good right now.
 
We need to package ourselves right away with KSU, KU, and maybe Mizzou. All alone, we are toast.

Then again, after watching us play tonight, a schedule full of Western Michigan and Ball State sounds pretty good right now.

Unfortunately, the type of players we will be able to recruit after falling to a conference with that competition will be much worse than we get now. So, even those games could be killers.
 
CU must be super excited about the prospect of getting back together with former mates and travelling to Lubbock and Stillwater.
 
Here is the newest article from the Kansas City Star:

KU, K-State and Missouri stung by Oklahoma’s interest in Pac-12 - KansasCity.com

Pretty detailed.

At this point though I think you have to question some the love expressed by the UT AD for the Big 12. It is possible OU and others to the Pac would happen early next week (possibly including UT).

Longhorns athletic director DeLoss Dodds said before the game with Rice that Texas loves the Big 12 and will be watching to see developments involving Oklahoma.

Dodds wasn’t alone in optimism about the Big 12.

A source close to the Big 12 told The Star, that the conference could survive multiple losses.

The remaining schools — even if it was down to Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Baylor — could form the core of a conference that would add expansion targets. “Absolutely†that is a possibility that has been discussed by the Big 12, the source said.

Part of Texas’ affection with the Big 12 is the ability to own a network on ESPN that is scheduled to pay the school $15 million annually for the next 20 years.

Texas couldn’t take the network into the Pac-10 last summer, which is why the Big 12 survived. But Pickens says the Longhorn Network is the deal that’s killing the Big 12’s future.

“This conversation is going to come up every year as long as the conference is not equal,†he said. “You’ve got to have an equal deal like the SEC. You can fix the Big 12 now, but it’s got to go to an equal deal, and it’s not equal.â€

But there are no guarantees even remaining schools wouldn’t look at other options. . . . .

 
Here is the newest article from the Kansas City Star:

KU, K-State and Missouri stung by Oklahoma’s interest in Pac-12 - KansasCity.com

Pretty detailed.

At this point though I think you have to question some the love expressed by the UT AD for the Big 12. It is possible OU and others to the Pac would happen early next week (possibly including UT).



If I'm reading that right, and the possibility is that a new league would form with Texas and the remainders, I'd rather see ISU in the Big East.
 
Hmmm. Why has Fred recruited so hard back to Michigan and New York. Maybe we knew all along it would be the BE.
 
Am I right in saying that the Pac-whatever requires unanimous approval of members to expand?

Wouldn't Colorado be a huge impediment to adding UT?
 
If I'm reading that right, and the possibility is that a new league would form with Texas and the remainders, I'd rather see ISU in the Big East.

You mean you wouldnt want to have the five remaining teams have 50% and give the other 50% to Texas?