Do you know which is worse, a serious misdmnr or an aggravated misdmnr?
I know an OWI is one of those. And an OWI would only get you suspended for a game or two. I wonder if the same would apply here?
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Do you know which is worse, a serious misdmnr or an aggravated misdmnr?
I know an OWI is one of those. And an OWI would only get you suspended for a game or two. I wonder if the same would apply here?
Would you have rather of joined the MAC? Or do you wanna join the MAC in the future? As long as this is not a felony let a kid make up for one mistake in his life, its not like we are talking about a multiple affender.
He will be punished appropriately. Many people get a freebie gift for the first offense. Judges are creative. I think the idea is that one mistake should not normally ruin a lifetime.
Seriously? Do you really believe this. So, if I accidentally leave my keys in my car, you find it OK to go ahead and steal my car then? I mean you just found it that way. Sorry, but that logic does not fly with me. You may not have planned to steal the card, but you know you are stealing when you use it. Maybe not directly from the card owner, but definitely from the bank that issued it. Granted, it is different than a person who goes out to hatch a plan to steal cards, but in the end, the result is the same, you are stealing.
Like the kid in the locker room the other day, talking to his buddy about these new $50 swimming goggles he "Found" sitting in a chair by the pool. "I mean why wouldn't I take them, they were just sitting there." And his buddy says, "That's awesome!" So I was a little jacked up after working out, so I look at him and say, "Well, you might have decided to not take them because it's stealing?" To which they laugh it off, crazy old man I'm sure they thought. None the less, it's situations like this that do bring down the morality of our society. "Oh well that guy got away with it, why not me."
OK, sorry done with my rant.
i'm not in that lynch mob nor will i ever be. this is the world we live in regarding college athletics and has been for a long time-CPR is paid well and paid well to do 1 thing-WIN.
Agree with all this.
I suppose we'll have to wait and see what the details are. But if he used a card that wasn't his - I think he needs to miss at least a game.
BTW - you should've walked over and snatched the googles and told them "thanks for finding my goggles".
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As long as it doesn't involve them (meaning they are not the victims) they can call it "victimless crime
I agree. He has not had other issues that the public is aware of and the first legal issue is usually met with a stern warning and not much else.
I understand he is a football player and he gets a great deal of advantages from that, but the public scrutiny and verbal abuse he will take now needs to be factored into what his "penalty" will be, imnsho.
I agree. I don't have any problem making fun of iowa players' run-ins with the law, but I'm not going to act all indignant and accuse them of running a thug program. Basically, I can laugh at them without acting like my team is better than that. Really, it's not our business to look down our noses at how other programs handle their player arrests. All we have to do is make sure we can live with the choices our coaches make...and in this case, I can live with no games or up to two, any more than that and I think we are unneccesarily punishing ourselves.
Did I not say it was the wrong thing to do?
Again, most seemed to perceive this as him taking the card from the purse of the woman and going and using it. That is not the case. There is a very large difference in the intent behind each scenario. Again, I don't think he should go unpunished, never said that. I do think the punishment should fit the crime. IMO, had he stolen the card with the intent to use it that would be grounds for a one year suspension. I say that and not dismissal because that would still give him the opportunity to play next year if he chose to redshirt. I don't think this incident should ruin his future. If you boot him from the team you cost him a shot at the NFL almost definitely. I think you give him a 1-2 game suspension, make him run a little, and let him go on with life. Like I said, no one was hurt by this financially or physically. Had he tried to cover it up or something like that, it would be different. Again, I don't know how many times I have to say this, I don't condone what he did, but I do think there is a difference in the intent of this situations compared to what it was made out to be.
As long as it doesn't involve them (meaning they are not the victims) they can call it "victimless crime
Who was the victim?
