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Angie said:
I never said that good music doesn't become popular - Nirvana had huge sales for "Smells Like Teen Spirit." That isn't my argument at all. My argument was that their music often sounds mass-produced and generic. The generic power ballad is a go-to that they seem to use at least once an album for sales purposes. And, again, Dave was in Nirvana - I never said he wasn't passionate. That doesn't make sense.
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Just for you :)

---------------- Now playing: Foo Fighters - Learn to Fly via FoxyTunes
 
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isubeatle said:
i don't know how you can say Nevermind wasn't mass produced and didn't pander to the masses. and you did compare the passion of Nirvana(Kurt) to the Foo Fighters(Dave). "Nirvana was driven by angst and anger - there's no way to compare the passion there with Foo Fighters. " ok so you said there's no way to compare it, but that's what this is.

and you're right, Foo Fighters do appeal more to the masses. My mother likes the song Wheels and that made me cringe when she told me that. But you can't discredit a band because they have mass appeal.
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Nirvana kind of created the awareness of that angst in the general population of the youth - Foo Fighters haven't brought any societal self-awareness of that sort. I just said that "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (and obviously the album attached) was a huge seller, so, again, I understand that it appealed to the masses - but they pretty much created that market. (It's an incredibly valid point if you want to say that they were capitalizing on a genre that others created, but they still brought awareness to it.) You can't say that it was generic when it broke the mold.

Regarding the passion - I never even mentioned Kurt. One more time - Dave was part of Nirvana. It's pretty impossible to contrast the passion of two bands if he was a part of both. You can, however, compare their catalogues and the passion of those. If you don't want to agree with that, that's cool - I am not insulting anyone's opinion (or calling it "crap"), I simply said in my first post that I disagree.
 
Angie said:
Nirvana kind of created the awareness of that angst in the general population of the youth - Foo Fighters haven't brought any societal self-awareness of that sort. I just said that "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (and obviously the album attached) was a huge seller, so, again, I understand that it appealed to the masses - but they pretty much created that market. (It's an incredibly valid point if you want to say that they were capitalizing on a genre that others created, but they still brought awareness to it.) You can't say that it was generic when it broke the mold.

Regarding the passion - I never even mentioned Kurt. One more time - Dave was part of Nirvana. It's pretty impossible to contrast the passion of two bands if he was a part of both. You can, however, compare their catalogues and the passion of those. If you don't want to agree with that, that's cool - I am not insulting anyone's opinion (or calling it "crap"), I simply said in my first post that I disagree.
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jesus, i'm sorry. i wasn't trying to insult you in any way. I totally respect your opinion to disagree. again, sorry i insulted you, it wasn't my intention.
 
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Al_4_State said:
Dave Grohl is one of the best (and often underrated) individual artists of the past 20 years. It isn't a coincidence that pretty much every band/album he's involved with is excellent. I would honestly argue that his body of work is every bit as impressive as his erstwhile bandmate (who shall remain nameless here).
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Yeah, just listen to Bleach then Nevermind...his addition as drummer between the two albums singlehandedly made the difference between Nirvana being a good band and an international phenom.
 
josh777 said:
Yeah, just listen to Bleach then Nevermind...his addition as drummer between the two albums singlehandedly made the difference between Nirvana being a good band and an international phenom.
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I disagree with this. Grohl didn't have a lot of input in Nirvana. The thing that changed was Kurt wanting to be a little poppier. It also made a huge difference that Bleach was recorded for $600 on a small label like Sub Pop and Nevermind was on Geffen DGC with a larger financial backing. Grohl copied a lot of Chad Channing's drum parts for Nevermind since most of the songs were written before Grohl joined the group.
 
isubeatle said:
jesus, i'm sorry. i wasn't trying to insult you in any way. I totally respect your opinion to disagree. again, sorry i insulted you, it wasn't my intention.
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No offense taken - I just wanted to make sure I wasn't insulting anyone by disagreeing.
 
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Cymon said:
I disagree with this. Grohl didn't have a lot of input in Nirvana. The thing that changed was Kurt wanting to be a little poppier. It also made a huge difference that Bleach was recorded for $600 on a small label like Sub Pop and Nevermind was on Geffen DGC with a larger financial backing. Grohl copied a lot of Chad Channing's drum parts for Nevermind since most of the songs were written before Grohl joined the group.
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I'm aware of this history but there is no doubt Grohl's drumming is superior. Songs written before him or not, Cobain wasn't dictating drumming style...that's all Grohl.
 
Grohl is a phenomenal drummer. I own Bleach, just as I own every other Nirvana album, and his presence made a huge difference. He didn't write the songs, but he had a huge impact on the sound. Krist Novoselic on the other hand... Not to slam the guy, but he played some of the easiest bass lines of all time. Only Dee Dee Ramone had it easier.
 
Al_4_State said:
Grohl is a phenomenal drummer. I own Bleach, just as I own every other Nirvana album, and his presence made a huge difference. He didn't write the songs, but he had a huge impact on the sound. Krist Novoselic on the other hand... Not to slam the guy, but he played some of the easiest bass lines of all time. Only Dee Dee Ramone had it easier.
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Complexity doesn't matter. Novoselic played what the song needed. It's not like Cobain was a great guitar player either but I would rather listen to him than Joe Satriani any day.
 
Cymon said:
Complexity doesn't matter. Novoselic played what the song needed. It's not like Cobain was a great guitar player either but I would rather listen to him than Joe Satriani any day.
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I agree completely. I was just talking about personal impact on the sound of the band. Grohl has a unique style, whereas Novoselic could have been replaced, from a sonic stadpoint anyways (I believe he was pretty much Kurt's best friend so I'm guessing chemistry w/out him would have been bad). That's all. Simple is fine. But it's also very easy to recreate.
 
Here's a good video of Grohl playing with QOTSA.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUaD4K00rDY]YouTube - QOTSA w/ Dave Grohl - A Song For The Dead (Glastonbury 2002) *HQ 16:9*[/ame]
 
I'm 35, so Nevermind was just hitting it big my senior year in high school and then was played fairly continuously (along with Pearl Jam's Ten) in Beyer House of Welch Hall throughout the fall semester of my freshman year at ISU. I never cared for Nirvana, yet I love the Foo Fighters. They are one of three or four groups whose CD I will buy immediately regardless of whether I've heard the songs or not.

Everyone has different musical tastes. Go figure. No one is wrong for thinking Nirvana is better than Foo Fighters or vice versa.

I, too, despise the argument that when a band becomes popular they have "sold out." They will become popular if their music is good.......although I can't quite explain Lady Gaga or Katy Perry. But, like I said before, to each his own.
 
I think it's great, as well. Very smooth. Noticed it's already #2 on the Billboard Rock Songs chart after only two weeks.
 
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