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Liberatore can’t even get through 2 against the crappy Royals. 6 of the 7 hits he gave up were extra base hits. Really can’t wait until his time is up in the rotation
 
Liberatore can’t even get through 2 against the crappy Royals. 6 of the 7 hits he gave up were extra base hits. Really can’t wait until his time is up in the rotation
Without a doubt he had a crappy outing, it's going to happen to the best of them. Take the loss and move on.
 
Yes, but he has not done well of late.
Yeah it’s not just one game with Libby, it’s been a long run of games of inability to get past the fifth inning and ineffectiveness. ERA is in the 5s now
 
No one is saying Libby is the ace of the staff, but he is better than many others were could be throwing out there to pitch. It's not like the Cards have an abundance of starting pitching ready to take his place down in the minors.
 
At this point I would hope Dobbins is back up as soon as he is able to be and replaces either Leahy or Liberatore in the rotation. Can't remember the exact rules but he has to stay down a certain number of days after his last demotion. While the Cardinals are currently competing, they can't have both of those guys in the rotation right now, and especially not back to back.

Mathews and Mautz just can't figure out the walks, I'd be nervous to have them up until after the deadline at this point. Similarly Doyle and Cijntje are not doing well at AA. For all the success we've had with the hitters this year, the pitchers have been almost equally disappointing. But I feel pretty strongly that Liberatore and Doyle could make for good back of the bullpen guys if starting does not work out (Leahy would have a nice role in the BP as well). But hopefully there will be an uptick in the results in the minors as we turn towards the back half of the season and we can get the arrow pointed up for some of these guys in the second half of the year.
 
Dang heck of a game today, score 12 runs and have to hold on for the victory, overall very disappointing weekend only wining one out of three to the Royals.

Bigger picture this weekend showed why you have to be a smart seller at the deadline, move players like May and a few others to get a maximum return and continue the rebuild. Ask yourself one basic question about every position and player on the field "is this guy going to be manning that spot in 2027/28 and beyond." Any answer other than "without a doubt" you are looking to move them if you can get a piece back that could answer that question.
 
Our 4th here at Lake of the Ozarks is one to remember. Boating, swimming, fishing, grilling, games and Cards finish the day off by shutting out the Cubs in Wrigley after yesterday’s demolition! Media talk is comparing this team to last year’s with the same record and then the collapse. Feel’s different this time though with all the youngsters and the roster cleansing of fading stars and non-producers Gorman and Scott. Could use a solid #1 pitcher in a trade, unfortunately Sonny Gray is having a good year elsewhere.
 
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You have to give some credit here to Marmol, he seems like he is having fun coaching the young kids, and the staff they have put together is doing a much better job preparing the players for every game. I never thought I would be saying that about Oli, but he deserves some mention for the fine season they are having.
I thought Smoltz did a great job of pointing out that when you get rid of the stars, sometimes the younger players step up and learn to win on their own, which was what happened in Atlanta. Maybe St. Louis is starting that process now.
 
Damn talking about giving a game away, Walker hits a bomb to give us the lead, and then we give up four runs, when they were out of it with a double play and we throw the ball into right field. At least we took 2 out of 3 from the scrubs.