This would be a perfect vehicle for a high school/college kid.Well we will now see how many of those people who say "just give me a basic vehicle without all the crap" buy one of these.
When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?
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Are there any current Des Moines area Rivian owners on here? I'm curious about the experience / hassle factor for service and how that has been so far?
I'm leaning toward pulling the trigger on an R2 when I get the opportunity (have a first 24 hr reservation but still guessing it may not be until later this year) - but the thing that makes me the most hesitant is the nearest service center being in Council Bluffs. It sounds like the mobile service can come to you and handle quite a bit, but just wondering if others have first hand experience?
I'm leaning toward pulling the trigger on an R2 when I get the opportunity (have a first 24 hr reservation but still guessing it may not be until later this year) - but the thing that makes me the most hesitant is the nearest service center being in Council Bluffs. It sounds like the mobile service can come to you and handle quite a bit, but just wondering if others have first hand experience?
I know there are some happy Rivian owners on here, but the latest Consumer Reports does not look good for them.
With that said, maybe it's nothing serious because
85% of owners stated they would definitely buy a Rivian again if given the choice. This is by far the highest score of any auto maker.
Predicted Reliability: Dead Last (Ranked 26th out of 26)
While owners love the driving experience, the actual build and mechanical/software dependability tell a different story. Consumer Reports ranked Rivian last in overall brand reliability.- The Scores: Out of a 100-point scale, the R1S scored 29 points and the R1T scored just 18 points (making the truck one of the lowest-scoring individual models in the entire survey).
- The Issues: The low scores are mostly driven by a high volume of minor build-quality issues, electronic/sensor glitches, and lengthy wait times at Rivian service centers.
With that said, maybe it's nothing serious because
85% of owners stated they would definitely buy a Rivian again if given the choice. This is by far the highest score of any auto maker.
I haven't seen much noise here about the Slate given they announced pricing yesterday. I don't know how I feel about this thing. I guess we'll see if there's really a market for a bare bones truck with 200ish miles of range that can only tow 2000 lbs.
I Briefly Rode In The Slate Truck, And It's Gonna Be A No From Me, Dog - Jalopnik
Though its simplicity and breadth of customization are appealing at first, the electric Slate pickup just doesn't feel worth its $24,950 base price.www.jalopnik.com
To me the issue is the bench seat.
Once you turn it into an suv, it’s not cheap anymore.
I asked this question over in the Rivian sub-reddit a couple weeks ago. Had somethings cooking in the background to where I was going to start putting a significant amount of miles on my personal vehicle compared to the 8 mile daily commute I have now. There were two camps of people... Ones that claim they've never had a single issue which I don't believe and another camp that said they've been to the service center enough for recall work that if they lived more than an hour away they'd probably regret buying one.
Thanks. That is what I am sort of guessing would be the case; my heart wants it bad but my head is saying it probably isn't a good idea yet. We'll see, may not even get an invite for quite a while anyway.
The low scores are mostly driven by a high volume of minor build-quality issues, electronic/sensor glitches, and lengthy wait times at Rivian service centers.
Interesting. When Teslas first started coming out, they had TONS of this same kind of problem. Misaligned gaps, cosmetic things right out of the factory. A detailer I know got hired by the MSP Tesla dealership to basically detail and tidy up EVERY new car they got in before delivery to buyer. He said just tons of dumb little things, poor work from the factory. They got it sorted finally with some quality control, probably Rivian will too in a year or 3.
Never buy the first model year of any car, or second either if possible.
My FIL has one in Fargo and has had mobile visit him. He did have to bring it here to the Twin Cities once.
The score and the would buy again % sure seem out of whack. Like you said little issues that are annoying but not enough to discourage them from getting the same vehicle again.
Maybe it's the old "80/20" rule at work here, where the 15% are having the bulk of the problems. In other words maybe a small percentage is having a ton of problems.
About 6 months ago I picked up a used 2020 Kia Niro EV as an extra car, mostly to see if I was ready to go all‑in on an EV for my main driver. I started out with a 240 V, 20 A setup that an electrician installed, and I found out pretty quickly I wasn’t happy with it – it was taking on the order of 18 hours to get a full charge at that rate.
I ended up having the wiring redone and put in a dedicated 240 V, 50 A circuit along with a proper Level 2 wall charger (ChargePoint). The new unit looks cleaner on the wall, makes it easier to manage the cable, and of course charges much faster, so the whole setup is a lot more convenient now.
Early on I also had some issues with the “check EV” warning light coming on intermittently. That led to several trips back and forth to the dealer, but since the car still had a 12‑month warranty they eventually tracked it down to a bad wiring harness and replaced it. It was frustrating, and I suspect the previous owner knew something was up, but at least it’s sorted now.
With the charging upgrade and the harness fixed, the car drives like a dream and has been a really nice introduction to living with an EV.
I ended up having the wiring redone and put in a dedicated 240 V, 50 A circuit along with a proper Level 2 wall charger (ChargePoint). The new unit looks cleaner on the wall, makes it easier to manage the cable, and of course charges much faster, so the whole setup is a lot more convenient now.
Early on I also had some issues with the “check EV” warning light coming on intermittently. That led to several trips back and forth to the dealer, but since the car still had a 12‑month warranty they eventually tracked it down to a bad wiring harness and replaced it. It was frustrating, and I suspect the previous owner knew something was up, but at least it’s sorted now.
With the charging upgrade and the harness fixed, the car drives like a dream and has been a really nice introduction to living with an EV.
Also, Hyundai served me this ad this morning. Personally I don't think it's their strongest selling case, but maybe that's just me:
I was just coming to post about Slate. Neighbor just told me about them.Well we will now see how many of those people who say "just give me a basic vehicle without all the crap" buy one of these.
Email from Rivian today. We can build our R2 in 2-4 weeks. Delivery should happen 4-8 weeks after that.
Nice! Mine isn't coming until Oct/Nov, I'll be interested to hear your experience!
I know some didn't like the design but it hasn't hurt sales
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The Hybrid Highlander is still my #1 choice but I am starting to wonder if there is better value in a Kia. Seems equally equipped with a generally lower price point.
Exactly, I charge my EV maybe 2 times a year at a supercharger and the longest I have spent was 7 min a few weeks ago. It was barely enough time to go get a soda and pee. Ohh and it cost me $11, so maybe $30 to drive to MSP and back.
We have a 2016 Toyota Sienna with almost 150k miles on it. I am itching to get a new van because after my experience with my F150 Lightning, I hate driving it. I am really hoping that Toyota, Kia, etc. will release an EREV minivan in the next 2-3 years. There is no way my wife lets get her an EV unless it can handle the trips to family in Des Moines, Dyersville, and the Chicago Suburbs without having to sit for 45 minutes charging.
We've been happy with our 2021 telluride SX-P. It's definitely nicer inside than any Toyota that doesn't have a Lexus badge. I drove a 2023 Highlander last year, and I liked the turbo 4 better than the V6 in my Kia, which is rare. It was a rental with less than 15k miles, and it had a surprisingly number of interior rattles. The infotainment is usually way ahead of Toyota. With that said, I wouldn't buy a first year Kia. Although I'm not the biggest fan of hybrids in general, Toyota seems to do them better than anyone else. So I'm summary, make sure you test drive and pick the right model/year.
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