We get it, Mrs Campbell. You’re very proud of your son. You should gear up to defend him to the ped state masses now instead of trying to get the statue of him built in Ames where he clearly wasn’t up for the job.
Serious Question: How does ISUs football recruiting look so far?
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Campbell is a hugh culture guy and as Cyclones we benefited from that during his coaching stint in Ames. So to not expect players to follow Campbell, forgets the foundational aspect of Campbell as a program builder.
But as strong a culture Campbell built, college football pay-for-play grew exponentially last winter. We'll never know, but Campbell may not have been able to keep most of Iowa State's best players if he stayed. Culture matters, but it don't fill a bank account
I guess your not past the hurt of him leaving, maybe your should join a sympathy group for jilted lovers or something. Love the ped state comment, just how many coaches and administrations are people like you going to blame on others after they are long gone from the university? What those people did was horrible, but no one currently at that university should be burden with what they did.
If he doesn't, he'll be out the door sooner rather than later. He wasn't exactly the 1st choice there.
MC's going to find a much more hostile environment from the cultish Pedo fans and media when things don't go as fans would like. And surpassing what Franklin accomplished there won't be easy.
So you are saying they acted like fans of their university and was trying to protect it. Look over east of us and all the trouble they have had over there, did they act any different? When we had a coach here that had a drinking problem, did our fans condemn him, or give him a pass for the way he acted?
Matt has never been the kind of guy to really go for the home run. He's basically Kirk Ferentz. He's pretty conservative. And what has Kirk never been able to do, win a game that really matters. Part of the reason teams with really good athletes hit home runs is because they know that the odds are in their favor to go to that Five-star one-on-one. We'll see if he's able to recruit that caliber of player and then actually take advantage of the matchups and moments.
As far as the Sandusky thing goes, I think everyone associated with Penn St football is still fair game for criticism. There was never any real accountability after that horrific situation. And you basically had a cover-up by Paterno and administrators who only cared about the success of the football program no matter the cost.
And that wasn't even the first cover-up. Back in the 70's Paterno and the Pedo admin allowed a serial rapist (Todd Hodne), who ended up murdering someone, to stay on the team with Paterno actively trying to dissuade his female student victims from coming forward.
Penn St football represents everything awful that college football can be when you remove integrity and accountability, and have a coach with a cult fan following and a school admin that only cares about winning regardless of the cost.
Incidents like those above would've ended football at many schools and probably resulted in serious NCAA penalties. Pedo St skated both times and then quickly swept everything under the rug. I wish nothing but misery on that program and university. They're truly disgusting.
Well, except for the fact that CMC went to PSU at the best possible time ever. Even with all their roster turnover, PSU will be favored in at least 10, maybe 11 or even 12 games this season. Marshall, at Temple, Buffalo, Wisconsin, at Northwestern, USC, at Michigan, Purdue, at Washington, Minnesota, Rutgers, at Maryland.
No Ohio State, no Oregon, no Indiana, no Iowa (and I say Iowa only because CMC has a mostly ISU roster and so you know Iowa would make it close.)
But after next season, he's bound to get a much tougher draw.
I never said that, so why jump to the conclusion? So a scandal that occurred 15 years ago, everyone associated with was sent to jail or fired, and you think everyone today associated with the school should be punished, and if someone does not agree with your point of view, they are just as bad as those that committed the crime and covered it up.
What did Campbell have to do with any of this? None that I can see, he just took a job at a school where this occurred a decade and a half ago.
demoncore1031
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While he was at ISU, we really had a low number of kids enter the portal every year. That is one of the things I appreciated about Campbell as our coach.
You like insulting people, was someone mean to you today? Do you need your blanket and your mommy?
I think Raynor will be good. Hopefully he will be better than good. QB recruiting is going to be really important. To have a good college football team you need a really good QB.
Campbell can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag. And at this stage of his career, that's never going to change.
My statement appears far closer to your position than does your mischaracterization of mine. I don't particularly care that you see things differently.
You place little to no importance on institutional accountability, having already pointed out a host of reasons why simple personal accountability fails.
O how clever you must believe yourself to be! Your concern is for the poor, poor Pedo State fans of today. We'd best all wring our hands for those tormented and troubled souls.
Not sure I’d go that far, but yes, I never went into a game under CMC at ISU where I thought we were going to win because we had a better game plan than the opponent, and better in game coaching.
Matt though was able to bring in decent talent, and was great at building team unity and culture. And that alone did win us games. Kids loved playing for him, and that showed by how many went with him.
But I’m fully expecting Rogers and company to have a better game plan going into games, and better in game coaching and decision making. If not, we’ll be in trouble.
A lifetime of experience brings a lifetime of perspective. MC's success is primarily predicated on the 'culture' he built. Every soccer team I've played on in my life went from last to first. Certainly, not because of talent, but rather chemistry. Chemistry never came overnight. It took years, but eventually it manifested. Same with MC. He brought master class psychology, was able to get the players to buy into self-improvement, self-motivation, and team chemistry. The delta between a 5 star player and a 3 star is more often than not, coaching. Some may not have received enough of it in high school to reach that delta. MC was able to discern that difference and know that coaching was the difference. As much as I liked MC, I'm more optimistic about JR than I was with MC when he got started. Let's just hope it pans out.
Every person involved was either fired or sent to prison what more did you want? A SMU deal where the program is shut down, which the NCAA has already stated they will never do again. No one is supporting what these monsters did, but blaming the fan base that acted like any other fanbase would act if they had something like this happened. How many people wanted MSU athletics disbanded after their doctor molested girl after girl? Just like Penn State, he was sent to jail, anyone else involved was fired, sued or sent to jail.
What more do you want?
You are pissed that Campbell left ISU and took a better job, its sucks for ISU, but everyone here would have done the same.
